10-16-2006, 10:31 PM
When did the wide "wrestling" style belt come into fashion?
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10-16-2006, 10:31 PM
When did the wide "wrestling" style belt come into fashion?
"...quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
a.k.a. Paul M.
10-16-2006, 11:02 PM
Quote:When did the wide "wrestling" style belt come into fashion? Just during the 4th c. Before and after, they were thinner.
Robert Vermaat
MODERATOR FECTIO Late Romans THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST (Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
10-16-2006, 11:22 PM
Quote:Just during the 4th c. Before and after, they were thinner. je,je,je, yes, "Thinner than the legionaries of now.....", jeje
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10-21-2006, 02:23 AM
ooooooooooooooooooo snap.
Tiberius Claudius Lupus
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10-21-2006, 10:20 PM
Quote:Vortigern Studies:13lihn5v Wrote:Just during the 4th c. Before and after, they were thinner. Bishop & Coulston state that the wide belt 'propeller' stiffeners continue into the early C5th. Southern & Dixon indicate that narrower belts replace them from the C5th onwards. D'Amato (2005) states that: "From the second quarter of the sixth century Roman soldiers appear to wear composite belts with fittings and pendants of silver, gold, bronze, and gilded bronze." Sumner illustrates this type with a series of pendant straps. I'm out of my period for Byzantine belts, but the pseudo-military icons I recall had thin belts, often (emperors & saints etc = officers?) with a series of plate-like fittings, like the Barberini Diptych. Cheers
Salvianus: Ste Kenwright
A member of Comitatus Late Roman Historical Re-enactment Group My Re-enactment Journal ~ antiquum obtinens ~
10-22-2006, 03:20 PM
the End IIIe century and early fourth century belt are more thinner, no?
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10-23-2006, 12:11 PM
I believe so: There isn't a direct comparison, but Bishop & Coulston describe C3 belts as 'broad', e.g. South Shields belt plates of 83mm and 'Felix Utere' belts of 25-35mm, some Tetrarchic belts as 21-83mm and belts in the second half of the C4th as 50-100mm.
Salvianus: Ste Kenwright
A member of Comitatus Late Roman Historical Re-enactment Group My Re-enactment Journal ~ antiquum obtinens ~
10-28-2006, 12:07 PM
Quote:the End IIIe century and early fourth century belt are more thinner, no?Yes, that what is believed from comparing the size of the buckles. Early 5th c. belts are also thinner again.
Robert Vermaat
MODERATOR FECTIO Late Romans THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST (Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
10-30-2006, 10:42 AM
I love my belt, putting that on really gets me into 'soldier' frame of mind. That, and the boots.
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~ Paul Elliott
The Last Legionary This book details the lives of Late Roman legionaries garrisoned in Britain in 400AD. It covers everything from battle to rations, camp duties to clothing.
10-30-2006, 12:11 PM
Yes, me too. As important part of vestition. Anytime is like a ceremony, remembering by that all the "real" roman soldiers efforts and pains.
Valete,
TITVS/Daniele Sabatini
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