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Yes, the Deepeeka blade (based on one from Smihel in Slovenia IIRC)from Guard to tip is 65cm
Total length from pommel to tip is 88cm
Deepeeka also make another sword (AH3309) with a very similar shaped blade to the find..
Top right in this page..
http://www.deepeeka.co.in/swords2.html
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Cannot be a Roman-model hellenistic sword like that of Jericho? THe blade lenght is almost the same of that reported in Mike's book.
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I'm not seeing a photo.
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Quote:I'm not seeing a photo.
me too, Bruno, can you post again the pic ?
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wow, now I'm seeing it !
Really strange the monster pommel , it is so big that is quite impossible to put the grip and the guard ! If you would not be sure that is original , I would say it is a modern wrong replacement.
I'm interested , is possible to see more detailed pics , of the blade too?
Anyhow , too long to be an hispniensis, and the shape too is quite doubt, I do not think it is roman, but we could have some more informations from the scabbard.
May be an hispanic one; the trilobate pommel is typical of that culture, but I never seen one so big and disproportional. Which material is from?
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Quote:Anyhow , too long to be an hispniensis, and the shape too is quite doubt,
Based on what evidence?
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Es Soumaa gladius 60 cm. blade.
Mouries gladius 63,7 cm. blade.
Boyer gladius 67,5 cm. blade.
Berrry-Bouy gladius 66,6 cm. blade.
Delos gladius 63,1 cm. blade.
So yes, it's a little bit longer than usual. But maybe this was the usual length in Egypt... 8)
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If the pommel is original, then I would guess that the end of the tang might have broken off and that the pommel has been placed over what remains of the tang for the photo.
I too would like to know what the pommel is made of. Is it jet? Perhaps obsidion? Some sort of tree resin?
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The pommel is made of ebony, as the autor says in the original post.
I think is too long for a hispaniensis, but could be a cavalry sword.
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Quote:Es Soumaa gladius 60 cm. blade.
Mouries gladius 63,7 cm. blade.
Boyer gladius 67,5 cm. blade.
Berrry-Bouy gladius 66,6 cm. blade.
Delos gladius 63,1 cm. blade.
So yes, it's a little bit longer than usual. But maybe this was the usual length in Egypt... 8)
Octavianus, where these lenghts are from; are you sure are not total lenghts , comprised tangs ?
All the gladii I have measured ( or someone made it for me) always had TOTAL lenght not more than 70 cm., and I saw some hispaniesis with the blade of 42-45 cm.
The average of the total lenght of the gladii , therefore blade together tang, are normally around 65 cm, so is quite impossible to have a lenght of 94 cm.
Just some spatha straubing type can have a so long blade , but is a totally different kind of sword.
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So yes, it's a little bit longer than usual. But maybe this was the usual length in Egypt... 8)
Octavianus, where these lenghts are from; are you sure are not total lenghts , comprised tangs ?
All the gladii I have measured ( or someone made it for me) always had TOTAL lenght not more than 70 cm., and I saw some hispaniesis with the blade of 42-45 cm.
The average of the total lenght of the gladii , therefore blade together tang, are normally around 65 cm, so is quite impossible to have a lenght of 94 cm.
Just some spatha straubing type can have a so long blade , but is a totally different kind of sword.[/quote]
That is an incredibly short blade for a Hispaniensis :?
That is even shorter than my Mainz or pompeinsis!
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These are blade lenghts, not total lenghts. So, as for the Dimeh blade, it is on the longish side, but not impossibly long for a hispaniensis-type gladius carried by a Roman soldier, a veteran carrying what by then shold have been a fairly old sword. But again, a '1st AD' date is a bit imprecise. Are there any Campanian B ware sherds around, or just Samian?
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I think everyone's being way too prescriptive.
"Centurions had a transverse crest."
Ever read about the centurion with the crest made of a brazier filled with hot burning coals?
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Es Soumaa blade 60, total length 70/75, Ulbert, 1979.
Mouries blade 63,7, total length 76,5, Feugere, 1994.
Boyer blade 67,5, total length 80,5, Feugere, 1994.
Berry-Bouy blade 66,6, total length 80, Feugere, 1994.
Delos blade 63,1, total length 76, Feugere, 1994.
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Quote:I think everyone's being way too prescriptive.
"Centurions had a transverse crest."
Ever read about the centurion with the crest made of a brazier filled with hot burning coals?
Maybe it was a transverse brazier? 
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