Sword, I century AD: a new photograph !

[Bruno Bazzani]

http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?t=12907

I'm sorry it took two years but, as promised, here is a new photograph for the friends of Roman Army Talk.

Any comment or suggestion is welcome.

Bruno

[LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS]

Is yet published?

[Bruno Bazzani]

I doubt !
It has been shot yesterday :wink:

The restorer is still working on it.

[Magnus]

Looks like a Hispaniensis...maybe more like 1st Century BC?

[Tarbicus]

Looks like Jorge's new hispaniensis.

http://armillum.com/tienda/index.php?ma ... cts_id=464

[Octavianus]

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[Gaius Julius Caesar]

You sure it isn't one of Jorge's New hispaniensis? wink:

[Tarbicus]

You sure it isn't one of Jorge's New hispaniensis? wink:

Positive. The top lobe on the find's tri-lobat pommel is larger than Jorge's.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

:lol: I was only joking Jorge... :wink:

Is that the one they were speaking about last year? I recall a thread about a new find, in Africa IIRC? :?

[Peroni]

Looks like a Hispaniensis...

Or a Mainz pattern that has had its edge honed and honed until the narrow waist was made! :wink:

Any dimensions? particularly the length of the blade?

[Peroni]

OK I found them in a previous post... Far too long to be a Mainz type blade. :roll:

- the new found sword is 1.05 m length
- the pommel seems to be ebony

Although I must add that the pommel does not allow for much room for a hand guard unless it has been incorrectly placed for the photograph.

[Tarbicus]

I make the tang from the pommel, minus a minimal guard, to be about 6.2cm. The pommel must be on wrong, or it follows the sizing of that tiny tiny grip in the British Museum.

[Bruno Bazzani]

Thanks for your comments.

Here are some new measurements taken after the removal of the scabbard and the restoration:
total length 94.5 cm
blade 77.5 cm
tang 8 cm
pommel 9 cm
blade max thickness 0.8 cm

Still too long for a gladius hispaniesis, I guess.
Could someone illustrate a little bit more the evolution from the Celtic swords to the gladius hispaniesis proposed in
[url:2ev4lvl3]http://www.mambri.com/CosasArmillum/hispaniensis.html[/url] ?
It sounds interesting considering the length of our sword.

The pommel is solidly attached to the tang and is in its original position.

They are now working on the scabbard which still retains the point ball tip and the fours suspension rings.

[Tarbicus]

Still too long for a gladius hispaniesis, I guess.

I wouldn't be too sure about that.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Yes I would agree, the ones I have from Mark morrow are Loooong!
And so is the Armillum one and the Deepeeka one too!
I can't give a measurement on the Morrow ones, but Jim and Ade could on the other two...?