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Tekije buckle 1st century AD
#61
Still many archaeologists (of the older generation) are not familiar with Roman military equipment in detail and do not give importance to such small finds. When museum workers call me for advice I find in the warehouses of museums unique specimens.
Like in this case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB4HKHuMU...ture=share
Here I helped to a young archaeologist with my knowledge
So many of the findings especially between 60-es and 80-es are destroyed for lack of knowledge of archaeological material.
Radostin Kolchev
(Adlocutio Cohortium)
http://legio-iiii-scythica.com/index.php/en/
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#62
Rado, how do you know that apron stud is attached with a rivet through the top? That could easily be part of the stamped/cast pattern.

Have you seen this stud in person? Are there any other pictures of it from the rear or cross section?

Because that top part looks nothing like a Roman rivet.
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Magnus/Matt
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#63
Existing holes in the middle of the concentric elements indicate (no matter if they are cast or stamped) that the only option for mounting on a leather strap is with rivet or small nail (which is curved from behind)
Radostin Kolchev
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#64
So there is a hole shown on one of the apron studs? Do you have pictures?
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Magnus/Matt
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#65
I have some pictures with concentric elements with holes but now I can show only that one -Finds from Conbustica by the archaeologist Krasimira Luke.
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On that from Vindonissa also can be seen apron studs with holes [Image: f59bf1e87552.jpg]
Radostin Kolchev
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#66
Well blow me down! Thanks Rado.
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Magnus/Matt
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#67
Logic that you follow is in the right direction Magnus! Most of use apron studs are from type (Bronze casting with tail from behind for installation on the leather stripes) perhaps 80%/70 % of total use.
But do not forget the other 30 % (concentric elements with holes) that are part of the large variety of apron studs used in the Roman Army for Cingulum.
Radostin Kolchev
(Adlocutio Cohortium)
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#68
You should have played for Bayern last night Rado!
Sulpicius Florus

(aka. Steve Thompson)

"What? this old Loculus? had it years dear."
"Vescere bracis meis" (eat my shorts)
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#69
Excellent! What size hole would you say that is? Maybe 1/16"? I'm going to try this on a few when my discs show up to see how it works. I have some Small copper nails with a tappered end. I was thinking of putting the head in from behind and then cut the shank from the front and peen it. That would give a small enough dome. I'll also try a brass rod.

I can see that this meathod would be easier to center since the hole will be pre-drilled rather than trying to solder a rod to the back.
"The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones"

Antony
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#70
1/16" is going to be far too small...the hobby store usually sells 3/32" rod which is a bit smaller than 1/8"...I have some at home. Were you planning on finishing the belt before Castra Aestiva Jay? If not, I can bring you some then.

It looks to me though that the hole could also easily be 1/8", depending on the disc size. But if you are using 1" discs then a 1/8" brass rod would be fine.

As to the soldering and centering...not really. All you have to do is clamp the rivet with pliers to the disc and then it doesn't move when you solder it.
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#71
I'm still waiting for my brass discs. They were sent back because my postman is on crack. He marked the package as "Not Deliverable: Missing Apartment number" but I clearly live in a house. If I get them by Wednesday or Thursday I could probably do it. I have 1/8" rod so I'll try it out. Thanks, see you on Saturday morning.
"The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones"

Antony
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#72
The very first information about Roman fortification at Tekija comes from count Marsigli. According to this data fortification was built of earth and brick, was of square plan with four round towers and was situated on the right bank of the Tekija brook.
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location of the finds: Village named Tekija on the lower Danube.Roman name of the place was Transdiern. On the Roman road and a number of strongholds indicate the importance of the Djerdap Gorge for the Roman Empire, until the final conquest of Dacia in the early 2nd century. The construction of the road, which stretched right along the river, was prompted by the need for faster and safer navigation. On the Roman road with the number of strongholds indicate the importance of the location for the Roman Empire, until the final conquest of Dacia in the early 2nd century. The construction of the road, which stretched right along the river, was prompted by the need for faster and safer navigation.
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Radostin Kolchev
(Adlocutio Cohortium)
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#73
This is assembled Tekije silver belts (as the original ) without apron included!
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So this belt is assembled but without installed apron. By the archaeological excavations are not found apron studs of any kind (as far as I know).
Radostin Kolchev
(Adlocutio Cohortium)
http://legio-iiii-scythica.com/index.php/en/
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#74
This is a new interpretation of the Tekije silver belt from my German friends Cohors Praetoria.
[Image: 96eec84ee3b5.jpg]
I do not agree with some of their decisions..but everyone sees things from a different angle Smile..
Radostin Kolchev
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#75
Not very convincing. The roundels were actually frogs, two of the original plates still show hinges, as show the backsides of the roundels. Altogether these belts had eight plates, two of which were with buckles. Stylistically divided we have have two complete belt sets from Tekije. One with five belt plates, buckle, frogs, one belt with three belt plates, buckle. See the "Balkani" book quoted above.
Christian K.

No reconstruendum => No reconstruction.

Ut desint vires, tamen est laudanda voluntas.
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