01-09-2007, 08:56 PM
Salve! The dirt eating Batavian horsemen (auxillia impression) would have to get away with braccea before the first quater of the second century, I presume? Get a clipeus, wear braccea/femenalia? :?
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01-09-2007, 08:56 PM
Salve! The dirt eating Batavian horsemen (auxillia impression) would have to get away with braccea before the first quater of the second century, I presume? Get a clipeus, wear braccea/femenalia? :?
01-09-2007, 10:29 PM
"Too bad you didn't kill Peter Woodward and his crew and bury them where no one could find them." I know you're only joking, but please not! He's a nice guy, my kids used to be in school with his lad, and he also gave me his left over (and very battered) scuta!
01-10-2007, 02:36 PM
Quote:I know you're only joking, but please not! He's a nice guy, my kids used to be in school with his lad, and he also gave me his left over (and very battered) scuta! Yes yes strictly a joke on my part, sorry I am use to other boards where people are use to my humor. Roman is my new thing.
James Barker
Legio XIIII Martia Victrix
01-12-2007, 08:53 PM
No worries!!! And welcome (a bit late)
Cheers
01-13-2007, 02:55 AM
http://www.caliverbooks.com/pageviewer. ... b=Patterns they sell the thorsjberg pants pattern. i think i added an inch or so to the seam up the legs
Tiberius Claudius Lupus
Chuck Russell Keyser,WV, USA [url:em57ti3w]http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy/Roman/index.htm[/url]
01-15-2007, 08:24 PM
Quote:Just to make clear that those long trousers with integral feet are not earlier than Third century AD, at least inside Roman Empire (They were posssibly used by Germannic people since an earlier date). Sorry Early Imperial folks! :wink: Aitor, Any pattern available for your Damendorf trousers?
Franklin Slaton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi Your mother wears caligae!
01-16-2007, 01:09 PM
Franklin,
Here goes the pattern of the Damendorf traouser as published on Karl Schlabow's book. I've corrected some big blunder, so it's reasonablily reliable. As it was recovered, the trouser had had its integral socks worn out and removed. Judging from the preserved edges, I've reconstructed them as those on a normal baby romper suit. The cloth loops (How do you call them in English?) for holding the belt are also missing and I've used those on the first Thorsberg trouser as a model. Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.
Rolf Steiner
01-16-2007, 01:56 PM
Yep, "belt loops" is the common term used in English.
Many thanks.
Franklin Slaton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi Your mother wears caligae!
01-16-2007, 02:08 PM
This page has an image of the Damendorf trousers pattern laid out:
http://www.frojel.com/Documents/Document04.html Another site: http://www.kostym.cz/Anglicky/VI_04_01.htm
James Barker
Legio XIIII Martia Victrix
01-16-2007, 03:20 PM
"Belt loops", thanks Franklin
James, Those patterns are based on the pattern by Schlabow. The semicircular element only existed on Schlabow's mind and must be eliminated from the pattern. Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.
Rolf Steiner
01-16-2007, 03:23 PM
Quote:The semicircular element only existed on Schlabow's mind and must be eliminated from the pattern. Thanks...I wondered about that myself.
Franklin Slaton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi Your mother wears caligae!
01-16-2007, 03:28 PM
Good catch Aitor, I did not see that. I wish people would not alter patterns to make it easy for them, a square or rectangle will go in just as easy.
James Barker
Legio XIIII Martia Victrix
01-16-2007, 03:30 PM
James, there is neither semicircle, nor square, nor rectangle. That frontal element simply didn't existed at all!!
BTW, I've edited my previous post with a better res pic. Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.
Rolf Steiner
01-16-2007, 04:47 PM
So then the two curved edges on the legs are just sew together without any gore? I wonder why people are adding them in.
James Barker
Legio XIIII Martia Victrix
01-16-2007, 04:59 PM
That's it, James!
Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.
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