Deepeeka is willing to improve

[Crispvs]

"e.g. the Pugio, I would really need full details, the scabbard constuction, and modifications required on our own model. These versions all were developed by Dan, and we have only him to believe."

Gagan,

As the person who tends to get more worked up than most people about the Deepeeka range of pugiones, I would be happy to give you any information you wanted on the real things. I would be happy to send you pictures of some real ones and if you could give me a secure postal address to reach you by I could send you a good deal of written material and drawings. I will not go into any great description here as (as anyone who has read my postings on pugiones will already know) I can go on for several pages when I really get going.

For the time being I will settle with saying that in the early imperial period there were three types of blade, two types of handle and three types of sheath. Description of the diagnostic features of the different blade types would take too long here but the three sheath types are: type 'A' - metal front and back, joined edge to edge and secured with rivets; type 'B' - wood (possibly covered in leather) with a near flat metal plate on the front, assembled using pins or nails which are clenched at the back of the sheath; and 'frame type' - wood (possibly covered in leather) and secured by brass or iron U shaped guttering around the edges. Both type 'A' and type 'B' sheaths tend to be heavily decorated with inlaid brass, silver and/or coloured enamel. There is no evidence for metal plates applied to the faces of dagger sheaths. The example pubished in Dan Peterson's book is a misinterpretation (I believe by Michael Simkins) of a line drawing of a type 'A' sheath from Kempton which was decorated with silver inlay and decorative rivets. As I said, I can supply you with all the drawings and photos you want, as well as a number of photos.

For a number of years I have been instructing people to avoid any 'Roman' dagger made by Deepeeka. I would love to be able to be able to recommend them instead.

This thread may be of interest to you: http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic. ... t=pugiones

Crispvs

[deepeeka]

"e.g. the Pugio, I would really need full details, the scabbard constuction, and modifications required on our own model. These versions all were developed by Dan, and we have only him to believe."

Gagan,

As the person who tends to get more worked up than most people about the Deepeeka range of pugiones, I would be happy to give you any information you wanted on the real things. I would be happy to send you pictures of some real ones and if you could give me a secure postal address to reach you by I could send you a good deal of written material and drawings. I will not go into any great description here as (as anyone who has read my postings on pugiones will already know) I can go on for several pages when I really get going.

For the time being I will settle with saying that in the early imperial period there were three types of blade, two types of handle and three types of sheath. Description of the diagnostic features of the different blade types would take too long here but the three sheath types are: type 'A' - metal front and back, joined edge to edge and secured with rivets; type 'B' - wood (possibly covered in leather) with a near flat metal plate on the front, assembled using pins or nails which are clenched at the back of the sheath; and 'frame type' - wood (possibly covered in leather) and secured by brass or iron U shaped guttering around the edges. Both type 'A' and type 'B' sheaths tend to be heavily decorated with inlaid brass, silver and/or coloured enamel. There is no evidence for metal plates applied to the faces of dagger sheaths. The example pubished in Dan Peterson's book is a misinterpretation (I believe by Michael Simkins) of a line drawing of a type 'A' sheath from Kempton which was decorated with silver inlay and decorative rivets. As I said, I can supply you with all the drawings and photos you want, as well as a number of photos.

For a number of years I have been instructing people to avoid any 'Roman' dagger made by Deepeeka. I would love to be able to be able to recommend them instead.

This thread may be of interest to you: http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic. ... t=pugiones

Crispvs

I would love to get complete product details by mail, drawings, specs and all. This would really help us in developing the correct pugio daggers. I am not sure about you sending an original, as it often can get lost in transit, and there are all types of laws on importing swords or daggers. However, closeup pics, careful line drawings, profiles and all can help a great deal. Thanx again- Gagan

[ambrosius]

Hi Dagan!
Read this thread And please take this out of your program: The helmet never existed like this in Roman times...

If you want a reference/picture for this, Gagan, your own website
used to have a picture of this helmet correctly assembled about
2 years ago. But then you changed the design so that the chin-guard
was set about 2 inches higher (as in this picture) which makes it
impossible to wear. Just lowering it by 2 inches again would put it right.

Ambrosius

[Dan Diffendale]

There's now a dedicated forum for Deepeeka:
http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewforum.php?f=41

All further discussion should be continued there from now on.
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