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Roman helmets: Imperial Gallic/Italic and Ridge - comparisons and sources
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Wink 
(11-03-2019, 02:11 PM)Crispianus Wrote:
(11-03-2019, 10:19 AM)CaesarAugustus Wrote:
(11-03-2019, 09:55 AM)Crispianus Wrote: Are you seriously comparing Kevlar® Composite Helmets with ancient metal working.....  the material would not suit multi piece construction even if it was available in 300AD...  Wink
Do you prefer a IIWW helmet?

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The concept is the same Wink

The only concept thats relevant here is that a helmet should protect the wearer within reason from the weapons of the time, none of the helmets shown will protect the user against all attacks and are all made using modern machine methods and materials.
To prove your point you'd have to prove that a rivetted helmet construction is less effective then a helmet made from one piece using the techniques and weapons of the period, as most modern helmets are going to outperform their ancient counterparts in many area's but likely fail in others, this would not be a fair comparison.

Ned Kellys bullet proof helmet proved effective but at some cost in weight, The Italian army adopted a similar concept in WW1 for specialist troops the Rivetted Farina helmet :



Wink
Nope, we were discussing about quality of the helmets. Comparing the monoblock approach of the Italic compared to the ridged, and what brought to such decision, considering that the ridged helmet was already well known by romans, but not used before a certain period by roman legions. Also according to what written by Goldsworthy. He has been accused to have written "Nonsense". 

You have found the farina helmet... yeah, not a ringed helmet, and not a great success. Not at all  Tongue
Farina helmet:
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it is not made by flanked parts but by partially overlapped parts, no ridge, as far I can see. And, it was uncomfortable and heavy. So its production was stopped and Model 15 and following were distributed. In short, this non-ridged helmet was a failure.

But you can still go to propose this helmet, apart the ridged one, to our armies. I am curious to see what they will reply Wink
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RE: Roman helmets: Imperial Gallic/Italic and Ridge - comparisons and sources - by CaesarAugustus - 11-03-2019, 02:56 PM

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