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Jef and Jim,
good points.
Now, about how long are your waist scarfs? Cause at 350 cm, I am having a tough time to get it to work. Course it could be missing the painfully simple here as well.
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Mike,
If it helps, mine is about 350cm long if a little narower than 30cm. However it is made from a fine weave of wool. If you use blanket type wool you may have problems.
Also in fitting it; you need to place the sash flat against your midriff then wind around, the consecutive windings should trap the lower ones in place and the en piece should judt tuck in. DO NOT tie a Knot it just doesn't work and if you do squeeze it under armour it's really uncofortable.
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Quote:Jef and Jim,
good points.
Now, about how long are your waist scarfs? Cause at 350 cm, I am having a tough time to get it to work. Course it could be missing the painfully simple here as well.
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Mike
Mine is 350cmx25cm. I've used a linen one for a very long time. Now I use one out of very thin wool and it works great too.
If you wear a tunica which dimensions are based on the evidence you need a fascia ventralis to tidy it up before putting on your armour.
It's true, if the fabric you use is thick it will end up very bulky.
Oh, and I tuck in the free end as well.
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Many Thanks,
I am working with a relatively thin wool now. It is definitely not as thick as a sagum or blanket, but it might be thick enough to cause problems.
About how thick, or what weight of wool are you using?
I am tracking on tucking it in and I have wrapped it much like you would wind up a old fashioned Top.
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Mike,
Not sure what weight but Thin!!
Mine is 25cm wide folded, stitched and reveresd to make a finished tube just over 10cm wide.
I'm not sure what problems you foresee, it wil definitely take a littole getting used to (wearinga fascia) but once you are used to it the benefits will be obvious.
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A back brace would inhibit the development of those muscles.
In addition, with something that thick, wrapped that tightly, has anyone noticed if it puts additional pressure on the abdomen, and thus restricts breathing, especially with a elevated heart rate?
On the flip side, all the extra wraps would definitely be a subarmalis of sorts, and definitely reduce the blunt force trauma from a blow.
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This is very true, as having worn a backsupport after injuring my back, then wearing it long after the aid was required, ended up with a weaker back than before, so stopped wearing it for work.
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Mine is just linen (what was to be a focale neckscarf but way too long...I'll get a wool one sometime down the road.), and I wrap it around my body twice. When the two ends meet/cross, I do a very loose "knot" - spreading it out so it sits as flat as possible, but the last cross I try to tie as tight as possible so it stays together, but again try to flatten it, as I also have noticed it's very uncomfortable with a thick knot and wearing segmentata armor...ugh.
I have noticed a slight improvement in comfort both wearing the tunic, and wearing armor with the sash now. Although I haven't had a chance to try using just the sash to tie the tunic up - I still use a leather strip.
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I made mine from the left-over wool of my tunic. It's about a 8" wide and
7-8 ft long. It helps very much in keeping the very baggy tunic fitted as well as giving the slight look of sleeves. When wearing my seg I have less trouble with excess material hanging out under the arms.
BTW, didn't many cultures of the time wear something similar even if their tunics were ankle length? I think some things were widely accepted as the way you wore your clothes.
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Were these all gray or other standard colors?
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I made mine also of left over tunic fabric. also you can get 2 legwraps or puttees from the fabric.
The scarf is 3,00 m and is a good back support as well as you can tuck al sort of things in it and makes the tunic look good.
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(12-13-2016, 09:47 PM)Gaius Rufus Cyrus Wrote: Were these all gray or other standard colors?
I doubt anyone could tell you that , Gray(grey) would most likely be a natural wool colour today you can get it as "Herdwick"(an ancient breed) wool which produces a rugged hard wearing cloth most likely good for such things, I guess it might be possible to get a hand weaver in Cumbria to make one for you...
As to other colors I would expect a full range with Black, Brown and white being natural wool and probably dyed with Madder(orangy red) Woad(blues) and Weld(yellows) as well as many others....
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Thank you for the great and descriptive answer!
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