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Well if I'm correct Emperer Severus banned female gladiators around 200 A.D. but the Larinum decree (under Tiberius) banned senators' daughters, granddaughters and great-granddaughters, and "any female whose husband or father or grandfather, whether paternal or maternal or brother had ever possessed the right of sitting in the seats reserved for the equites" from being gladiators. Which does seem to imply that there were gladiators before hand but doesn't necessarily mean that there were.
The Satire VI of Juvenal ridicules female gladiators for, as he points out, being upper-class women and seeking thrills.
"Who has not seen the dummies of wood they slash at and batter
Whether with swords or with spears, going through all the manoeuvres?
These are the girls who blast on the trumpets in honour of Flora.
Or, it may be they have deeper designs, and are really preparing
For the arena itself. How can a woman be decent
Sticking her head in a helmet, denying the sex she was born with?
Manly feats they adore, but they wouldn’t want to be men,
Poor weak things (they think), how little they really enjoy it!
What a great honour it is for a husband to see, at an auction
Where his wife’s effects are up for sale, belts, shin-guards,
Arm-protectors and plumes!
Hear her grunt and groan as she works at it, parrying, thrusting;
See her neck bent down under the weight of her helmet.
Look at the rolls of bandage and tape, so her legs look like tree-trunks,
Then have a laugh for yourself, after the practice is over,
Armour and weapons put down, and she squats as she used the vessel.
Ah, degenerate girls from the line of our praetors and consuls,
Tell us, whom have you seen got up in any such fashion,
Panting and sweating like this? No gladiator’s wench,
No tough strip-tease broad would ever so much as attempt it."
"Those trees in whose dim shadow
The ghastly priest doth reign
The priest who slew the slayer,
And shall himself be slain."
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It is correct that Severus banned female gladiators but the scholars assume that this ban was maybe carried out in Rome itself only but that they still appeared every now and than at provincial shows.
BTW the Satire of Juvenal was already quoted by me if you'd read the thread carefully :wink:
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Quote:It is correct that Severus banned female gladiators but the scholars assume that this ban was maybe carried out in Rome itself only but that they still appeared every now and than at provincial shows.
BTW the Satire of Juvenal was already quoted by me if you'd read the thread carefully :wink:
Ahh, my apologies...I just skimmed over it during school so I didn't see it.
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The ghastly priest doth reign
The priest who slew the slayer,
And shall himself be slain."
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With the opportunity to come out of retirement shortly presenting itself i have been reading this Ancient Combat Sports thread with Enthusiasm.
I am hugely impressed with Medusas scholarship.
I also wish to share with all my interpretation of the famous gladitorix relief.
I have long thought that as a cocession to glamour that that pair are depicted wearing what are normally called/ used as cavalry "sports" helms
and this is perhaps why the the detail of the hairstyle is still extant.
regardz,
Miles Minimus
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Hi there
Uwe's questions about the gladiators in the relief being female are well founded.
The figures use common techniques for depicting women in relief work, shoulders more selder than hips, narrow calves and knees drawn together rather than apart (I am told that these are common techniques).
however, among many standing, defeated gladiators we see similar techniques, possibly to 'unman' the defeated gladiators in the sculpture. So it may be that the sculptur was merely showing the 'unmanliness' (if there is such a word) of the defeated gladiator. I guess this will always remain in the 'we'll never know' pile?
Many thanks