12-31-2004, 12:28 PM
Hello all<br>
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I even think that prior to the Nazi use of the swastika an American unit used it as a symbol of good luck but stopped after they joint WW2 to save confusion (might be a myth though).<br>
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For a while I had the swastika from the Colchester Vase on my gladiatorial shield but found it caused too much excitement across in Europe to keep it and I painted over it.<br>
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Now for the Roman bit to keep this on thread.<br>
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Frequently gladiators are depicted with swastika on their shield and subligar, it was considered quite a potent good luck symbol (so I have read).<br>
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As for the salute, popular painting depicting the gladiator oath and salute always tend to depict them in a 'nazi' style salute, but I think that this owes more to fiction than to fact as there aren't any primary sources of the beginning of fights.<br>
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However, at the end of fights the victor is nearly always depicted holding his shield above his head, and not his gladius. <p>Graham Ashford<br>
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</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gashford>gashford</A> at: 12/31/04 1:31 pm<br></i>
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I even think that prior to the Nazi use of the swastika an American unit used it as a symbol of good luck but stopped after they joint WW2 to save confusion (might be a myth though).<br>
<br>
For a while I had the swastika from the Colchester Vase on my gladiatorial shield but found it caused too much excitement across in Europe to keep it and I painted over it.<br>
<br>
Now for the Roman bit to keep this on thread.<br>
<br>
Frequently gladiators are depicted with swastika on their shield and subligar, it was considered quite a potent good luck symbol (so I have read).<br>
<br>
As for the salute, popular painting depicting the gladiator oath and salute always tend to depict them in a 'nazi' style salute, but I think that this owes more to fiction than to fact as there aren't any primary sources of the beginning of fights.<br>
<br>
However, at the end of fights the victor is nearly always depicted holding his shield above his head, and not his gladius. <p>Graham Ashford<br>
<hr><br>
[url=http://www.ludus.org.uk" target="_new]Ludus Gladiatorius[/url]<br><br>
[url=http://pub156.ezboard.com/bromancombatsports" target="_new]Roman Combat Sports Forum[/url]<br><br>
[url=http://pub45.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk" target="_new]Roman Army Talk Forum[/url]<br><br>
[url=http://pub27.ezboard.com/bromancivtalk" target="_new]Roman Civilian Talk Forum[/url]<br><br>
</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gashford>gashford</A> at: 12/31/04 1:31 pm<br></i>