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Well .... the draco was used by Sarmatians, Yaziges, Marcomani, ... just to name some of those that used it as a battle flag, and remember that the english language has germanic, french, celtic influences, just to name the major ones. I wouldn't go so far as deriving the word "dagger" from "daca", especially since we don't really know how dacians have named themselves and how they have named their weapons in dacian language.
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That's interessting. Is there any evidence that the Marcomanni and/or Quadi used the sarmatian draco? I thought only the daci overtook it.
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Quote:Well .... the draco was used by Sarmatians, Yaziges, Marcomani, ... just to name some of those that used it as a battle flag, and remember that the english language has germanic, french, celtic influences, just to name the major ones. I wouldn't go so far as deriving the word "dagger" from "daca", especially since we don't really know how dacians have named themselves and how they have named their weapons in dacian language.
Well, first, about "daca", thats why i asked if someone have a official english dictionary. I know in french, or old french, was something as "dague", or so, and in spanish is "daga". I just read that is coming from vulgar latin, where is mean dacian fighting knife, but i dont know if is the name romans give it because dacians used, or dacians themselves gived that name.
About "draco", i didnt hear that Marcomani use it too. I know about Sarmatian tribes, but i supose was taked from getians ( dacians ), since the oldest "draco" apeared in dacian area, before the aparition of sarmatians.
http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?ac ... &id=494014
This is a reprezentation of "draco" on a dacian ceramic vessel from around 400 b.C. ( end of V cen. b.C. era ) founded in Budureasca ( Prahova county ), a little south of Carpatian Mountains.
But we know that the totemic cult of wolf existed since neolithic times in the area, Mircea Eliade, one of the most know religions historian saying about wolves statuets and ones called "dancers with wolf masks" finded in the Vinca-Turda culture, if i remember correct.
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Hi,
I am looking for this article :
Thracian sica and Dacian falx. The History of a National Weapon. In : S. Nemeti et al. (eds), Dacia Felix. Studia Michaeli Barbulescu oblata, Cluj Napoca 2007, p 67-82
Somebody could help me ?
Thank you
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Maybe I have missed something here (I Have
been known to do that frequently), But the
Romans seem to be a group not willing to
spend money where not needed and why
would they start to make whole units armed
with "heavy" armour including sword arm
cover, a re-enforced helm, and grieves if
there was not some sort of threat they were
trying to protect themselves from (here I
refer to the Falx). If this was a weapon only
encountered rarely it would not justify the
expense of equiping large numbers of soldiers in
the heavy style so there must have been
more commonality to some sort of weapon that
caused them enough of a problem that they
found they needed new forms of defence to guard
against attack from this new style/weapon form.
If I am wrong forgive me please and let me know
what I am missing here, thank-you.
Vale, Bryan
(Titus Rustius Lupus)
Armatus Et Ebrius
LEG XXX, Ulpia Victrix
Ontario, Canada
Thanks for having patience with me...
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This is a link, and can be see a photo there ( unfortunately is just in Romanian ), with a sword discovered recently somewhere in north east of Carpatians mountains, old as 3500 years ( 1500 BC ), a bronze one who belonged to proto-Dacians, and with a shape and dimenssions not quite different then Gladius type ones.
http://www.evz.ro/articole/detalii-arti ... -de-ani-/#
However, i still believe that in Iron Age the shape of weapons changed to Sica and Falx one, as more specialized weapons, but this design was as well keep it for some swords.
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This article can be useful to those that want to reenact a dacian warrior. It contains informations about weapons and armor found in dacian graves from Hunedoara, Transylvania, Romania.
http://arheologie.ulbsibiu.ro/publicati ... rriors.pdf
Later edit:
Another related article, this one about the sica type daggers from Romania, Bulgaria and nearby areas.
http://www.enciclopedia-dacica.ro/nemvs ... 2009/4.pdf
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Great articles!!
M.VIB.M.
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Katte Kabuto no O wo shimeyo!
H.J.Vrielink.
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Yes, interesting articles, thanks for posting Romulus
Razvan A.
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