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that`s the reconstruction of one of the "Prachtmäntel" (which means sagum with tabletwoven borders..) from Thorsberg bog:
![[Image: Thorsberg.jpg]](http://home.arcor.de/aisling/geschichte/Thorsberg.jpg)
The tabletwoven borders are either worked along with the fabric (as is the case here) or later attached by weaving over the fringes
If you habe any further questions on bog finds from europe, just ask, I`m happy to help 
Great work, John!!
Best wishes, Chris.
P.S.: Holger does NOT weave anything hiomself - he has somebody doing that for him :wink:
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Good that you found this forum, Chris! Here's a laus for you! Nice photo of that sagum.
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Thanks, a already feel quite at home here 
So many interesting things to read!
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P.S.: Holger does NOT weave anything hiomself - he has somebody doing that for him :wink:
Thank you for the info Chris, most suppliers are the same in my experience.. :wink:
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Interesting picture. It varies from the examples I have seen of a Thorsberg sagum.
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well, it`s the "official" reconstruction done by the workshop of the Textilmuseum Neumünster, where the original parts of sagum "Prachtmantel I" F.S. 3686 were examined, and on exhibition there
there are also F.S. 3687, F.S. 3688, F.S. 3689, F.S. 3698 and "Prachtmantel III" F.S. 3697, all fragments of sagums (saga??) from Thorsberg bog
then there are of course other finds: from Vehnemoor (Prachtmantel II), Obenaltendorf, Vaalermoor, Rendswühren, Neddenaverbergen, Ruchmoor, Bernuthsfeld, Dätgen, Damendorf and two from Hunteburg (Moorleiche A und B) - only to mention the german ones
you can find them all in
Karl Schlabow: "Textilfunde der Eisenzeit in Norddeutschland" edit: which means "iron age textile finds from northern Germany"
published by Karl Wachholz Verlag, Neumünster 1976.
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I did not know that many existed.
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there are even more..... and finds from Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands...
of course these finds are fragments, no sagum is really complete, but some are preserved quite good
there is a wide diversity in the sagum design visible in the archeological finds, there are narrow tabletwoven borders of only a few tablets or no border at all up to the border of 178 tablets of "Prachtmantel I" from Thorsberg (the one on the foto above)
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Well, it is nice you have come up with this information for us. To date, most people trust in Graham Sumner's number of less than 6.
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Chris,
Would you happen to have any photos of the other sagums you mentioned from Northern Germany as well as details such as colors, material, tablet woven, etc....
I would like to have a sagum made and I am looking for something that has some decoration and fringes on the end of it.
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Hi Chris,
nice to see you (and your textiles experience) here on RAT :-) )
A warm welcome from me as well!
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Hi Chris,
I've sent you a laud.
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Welcome, Chris,
I was thinking of posting that same pic but you've saved me that care 8)
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Thank you all :oops:
It was just a quick tour to my book shelv...
If there is any interest in it, I could start a new topic as a database on sagums and list there, what is known about the fragments?
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