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Lorica Segmentata Plate Thickness
#1
Hi Guys,
Looking for a bit of help.

Just wondering what thickness steel to use for a segmentata, 1mm or 1.2mm? larp.Legioxx.com says 18 gauge, which can be 1mm or 1.2mm depending on which conversion chart you use :?

So, in metric, how thick are your plates?

Cheers
Gerard Fitzpatrick

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#2
Do a search. It's been discussed a zillion times. :wink:
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#3
20g = .091mm
18g = 1.21mm
16g = 1.52mm

Now as to where the differnet thicknesses might be used.. see: Tarb's post!
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#4
There's no single thickness overall for a seg - Upper shoulder guards can be 16 gauge; Lower shoulder guards can be 18 gauge; Girth hoops can be 20 gauge. Can't remember what gauge the breast plates can be (20/18 gauge?).

Give or take 2 gauge for all of the above IIRC.

added: What I know from my own Matt Lukes seg with the above differences is that the weight distribution makes a big difference compared to the off-the-shelf seg. The centre of balance is higher, which makes it easier to wear.
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#5
Well, I must have been using a different gauge system, since I always assumed that 18 gauge was about 1mm. That's a good average to go with. Original girdle plates have been found as thin as 0.7mm, and shoulder sections--oh heck, I can't come up with any numbers.... 1.2mm at least, must be a few bits up in the 1.6 range. Mind like a steel sieve... Anyway, if you go thicker than 1mm on the shoulders, go thinner than 1mm on the girdle section. Make sense?

Valete,

Matthew
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#6
Sean, Jim and Matt,

Thanks the info guys, was exactly what I needed.

Jim, I'll search first next time. Smile
Gerard Fitzpatrick

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#7
Gerard... 20guage is 0.9mm, however if you are making this yourself. I would suggest that when you come to make the plates, try hammering them into shape. The girdle plates in particular, for this gives you what is known as Stressed metal and gives 20guage as much strength as 18guage. Then again it is not as heavy as 18, however being stressed metal it can even be stronger than 18.
Brian Stobbs
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#8
Hammering.. ah so true!

It's the rule here. Makes a huge amount of difference especially if you use them in some form of contact combat sport.
Hibernicus

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#9
Mine was made by Brian..!
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#10
Bear in mind that the Romans didn't have "16 gauge" etc, etc. As long as it ain't 5mm thick on the shoulders..... :wink:

You catch my drift, I'm sure.
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#11
Funny, the B&S conversion chart has 20ga at 0.81mm, 18ga at 1.024mm and 16ga at 1.291mm.

Not so much difference in truth I guess.
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#12
Gauge can be wierd

Compare these charts....
They show different fractions of an inch for steel, stainless steel, galvanized and aluminum...
http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/scale ... metal.html
http://www.geocities.com/shridhar_prabhu/gauge-cov.html
Hibernicus

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