Olympia museum helmet

[Peter Raftos]

A "new" Corinthian from the Persian Wars:
http://www.antiquities.org.il/article_I ... ule_id=#as

[hoplite14gr]

Who knows it might be the helmet of Antimenidas , brother of the lyric poet Alkeos.
Kind regards

[Giannis K. Hoplite]

Hey,I just read this article today at 2 o'clock in the morning(waiting my flight in the airport) in the "Istorikes Selides" magazine!Is there any safe way to distinguish the disformed parts of the helmet that were made in battle from those suffered during the centuries?
Khairete
Giannis

[hoplite14gr]

It might be possible. Depends on "how much they allow meddling with it".
Many Museum curators are on the verge on brain stroke when "techies" tumble with equipment.

Kind regards

[Paullus Scipio]

Nectanebo;
"Since this has turned into a Corinthian free for all, this is my contribution, it's scanned from Dorling Kindersley's "Weapon", click on the thumbnail please. "

With reference to the weights of the helmets quoted in this extract,
early Corinthian helmets were 'softer' and 'heavier', weighing 1.25-1.6kg in the early sixth century--they mostly conformed to the skull e.g the "milos" type I illustrated in 'Warfare in the Classical World".
The late Corinthian first appears around 530 b.c., distinguished by it's central peak and offset from forehead and sides by a curving ridge, and tends to weigh around 0.9 kg, thinner and cold-worked. (c.f. the U.S WW2 steel helmet at 1.11 kg). The real ones are often lighter than Deepeeka's reproduction !
It is correct that thickness varied, being thicker in the nasal ans at the front - a real tribute to Greek armourers skills.

[Zenodoros]

A "new" Corinthian from the Persian Wars:
http://www.antiquities.org.il/article_I ... ule_id=#as

I hope to see more photos of that helmet in the future, the aesthetic details sound pretty cool.

[laukkjd]

A "new" Corinthian from the Persian Wars:
http://www.antiquities.org.il/article_I ... ule_id=#as

I hope to see more photos of that helmet in the future, the aesthetic details sound pretty cool.

I agree! It would have been great if the photos had shown the engraving.

[PMBardunias]

How common was peacock imagery in greece? I have heard of it connected to Hera, but since the peacock is native to India this must have been imported at some point.

[jespah2000]

Giannis,

Not sure if you're still looking for pictures of the Olympia helmet, but here's some pics I took last year while at the museum. I couldn't tell exactly which helmet you were wanting (I guessed/hoped the one I had the closeup of), so I included a wider shot I had of the whole display.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Wow! I didn't know they had so many there!

And they had to be shut for renovations when I was there! :evil:

[jespah2000]

The picture I posted is actually just a few of them! Olympia has a fair number of helmets on display (I think I have photos of at least 2 other large helmet displays and few helmets displayed on their own), but the amazing thing is that what they have out represents only a tiny portion of those they have on site! Turns out just about everyone liked to leave votive offerings (and most often military equipment) at Olympia, making it an amazing repository of military equipment from both Greek and Roman periods. For instance I think there is actually a 5th century BC Etruscan helmet at Olympia, dedicated by Hieron of Syracuse after a victory in 474 BC!

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

I knew they left dedications in temples, just thought that most had been plundered over the ages....

I always wondered what had happened to the ones that would have been left at Delphi and in the Acropolis in Athens...

It's really great to learn so many are there still!

[Giannis K. Hoplite]

Jespah2000, at some point in this discussion I realised that the helmet I was looking for was not in the Olympia museum but in Corinth museum.But you cannot imagine how much I appreciate everyone's interest on my research about that helmet.
In any case,I am looking for photos of every such beautiful helmet as the one you posted here,Thanks.
If you have closeups of other helmets from olympia or elsewhere,I'd be interested,too.
By the way,have you uploaded pictures from the Olympia museum like the one above on flickr?I remember seeng similar photos there.
Khaire
Giannis

[Paullus Scipio]

Paul B. wrote

How common was peacock imagery in greece? I have heard of it connected to Hera, but since the peacock is native to India this must have been imported at some point.

I doubt that the engraving actually depicts a peacock tail, that is likely just the author's description.....when I read this, I envisaged the very common 'fantail of teardrops' incising.................

[john m roberts]

I recall reading that the Olympia temple got so cluttered with old military dedications that something had to be done about it and since the gear was dedicated to the gods it couldn't be sold off. So they buried it as landfill for the construction of a new stadium, thus retaining it in the service of the deities. It couldn't have been more convenient for future archaeologists and armor scholars.