Trajan\'s Column

[MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS]

YAIKES!!!!!!!!!! to the toledo one and the site from italy.....

so... if the rings were portrayed so many times...

wouldnt that give to think there might at least be a shred of evidence they existed?

M.VIB.M.

[Tarbicus]

YAIKES!!!!!!!!!! to the toledo one and the site from italy.....

so... if the rings were portrayed so many times...

wouldnt that give to think there might at least be a shred of evidence they existed?

M.VIB.M.

I don't see why, especially if the explanation were for sculptural decorative purposes, not actual military. The Toledo helm is a fake, and the Montefortino posted above has been doctored with horse furniture. There's no evidence of top rings on Roman helmets AFAIK PRIOR TO THE GUTTMANN NIEDERMORMTER.

Bear in mind that almost every helmet on the columns has a ring, but none of the ones on the Adamklissi Monument which clearly shows soldiers compatible with the archaeological record.

[Peroni]

There's no evidence of top rings on Roman helmets AFAIK.

Apart from the Guttmann Niedermoermter!
http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/ ... Itemid,96/

[Tarbicus]

Ah, true. :wink: Having built a 3D version I should have remembered that one. But was that used in the Dacian Wars?

[LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS]

M.VIB.M.[/quote]
There's no evidence of top rings on Roman helmets AFAIK.

.[/quote]

:wink:

[aitor iriarte]

There's no evidence of top rings on Roman helmets AFAIK.

And the Late Third century Deir-El Medineh Spangenhelm... :wink:


Aitor

[Tarbicus]

Yes, I know. I already replied :roll:

Now, show me one used in Dacia or contemporary to then.

[LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS]

We are bad people... Like vultures, waiting for the mistakes...
:lol:
It's a joke... 8)

[Tarbicus]

Swines :wink:

[Caballo]

LOL


But has anyone taken a pic of Niedermormter with a horsehair plume attached to the ring? Or other type of plume? ( For a real, completely Hollywood unauthenticated experience, you could even try a wolf's tail...?!)

Jim, with your photoshop skills?

[Tarbicus]

Surely it would just flop around and go over your face?

[Caballo]

Rather like the plume I have on my avatar- until a helpful Batavian suggested that I tie a separate (black) leather thong to the body of the plume and the plume holder. You might have the same issue with your Italic D plume?

Cheers

[Tarbicus]

I've jammed magpie feathers into the front, which should help stop it from swinging forwards. But thanks for the tip.

Of course, the ring could be to tie the helmet to a saddle when it's not in use..... :twisted:

[mcbishop]

There's no evidence of top rings on Roman helmets AFAIK.

Apart from the Guttmann Niedermoermter!

...which doesn't come from an archaeological context and still makes Coulston and me mutter 'dodgy' in our cups.

Mike Bishop

[Peroni]

until a helpful Batavian suggested that I tie a separate (black) leather thong to the body of the plume and the plume holder.

Just tie a thong aound the base of the crest to hold the hair down and it doesn't fly around in your face! Like this Jim..
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/ ... oolus1.jpg