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Votadini, client kingdom?
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(10-06-2018, 01:31 AM)Nathan Ross Wrote: I would suggest that the massive campaigns by Severus and Caracalla deep into the north, and involving very large numbers of troops, probably did more to batter the inhabitants of those lands into a state of peace and quiet. And, of course, no source mentions  the people of the border area at this time, so we still don't have to imagine any sort of formal client arrangements in place.
Well... massive campaigns... from what I know, at the end Severus moved to Britain just a legion, the Legio II Parthica, and the Praetorian Guard, more or less another legion. Apart that, he obviously used Britain Legions, but not all of them to keep the province garrisoned.
Far from being a very large number of troops. Anyway, this does not tell us if the Votadini were creating problems, probably no. We know that beyond the wall there were clashes and problems. But we know that the name of  Maeatae, that were people that lived not directly near the Hadrian's Wall.

So, we don't have enough sources to say that the Votadini where a client kingdom, but this doesn't say that we don't have to investigate in this direction, so imagining it.

(10-06-2018, 01:31 AM)Nathan Ross Wrote: The 'Saxon shore' was along the south and east coast. The later fortifications on the northern coasts, from Bridlington to Huntcliff on the east and at Lancaster on the west coast, were probably built to counter Pictish and Scotti/Irish raiders. The Saxons most likely lacked the capability to sail directly across the north sea during this period, and their raids would probably have followed the pattern of earlier Frisian and Frankish attacks, down the coast and across the straits of Dover.
Probably... but more likely there was a double purpose: defending from an increased range of Saxons and at the same time from threath from the north. But I am more interested in the period related to the II and III century for this topic.
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Votadini, client kingdom? - by CaesarAugustus - 10-04-2018, 08:33 PM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by Nathan Ross - 10-05-2018, 01:25 PM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by CaesarAugustus - 10-05-2018, 05:34 PM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by Nathan Ross - 10-06-2018, 01:31 AM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by CaesarAugustus - 02-02-2019, 12:00 PM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by Nathan Ross - 02-02-2019, 04:20 PM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by CaesarAugustus - 02-02-2019, 09:46 PM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by Nathan Ross - 02-02-2019, 11:19 PM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by CaesarAugustus - 02-09-2019, 03:01 PM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by Nathan Ross - 02-10-2019, 07:59 PM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by CaesarAugustus - 02-11-2019, 07:03 PM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by Robert Vermaat - 10-06-2018, 09:28 AM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by CaesarAugustus - 09-29-2019, 02:08 PM
RE: Votadini, client kingdom? - by Robert Vermaat - 10-01-2019, 10:00 PM

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