08-06-2008, 11:59 PM
I've been looking into depictions of the historic Legio XIV / XIIII to determine if it has the only known Legion scutum emblem.
This led to a search for depictions of known LEG XIV shields
So far this is the only depiction of a known LEG XIV shield emblem that I've found:
----- images from Roman Army Talk image database
http://rlqm.com/LEG.XIV.Scutum.Info/Gn. ... LEGXIV.jpg
http://rlqm.com/LEG.XIV.Scutum.Info/Gn. ... tclsup.jpg
One gentleman states that the following image is of a probable LEG XIV shield as it's from a monument in Mainz, a place where XIV had been located.
-----images from MC BISHOP
http://rlqm.com/LEG.XIV.Scutum.Info/LEG ... .miles.jpg
http://rlqm.com/LEG.XIV.Scutum.Info/LEG ... closup.jpg
Modern interpretations of the LEG XIV shield emblem employ an angular lightning bolt, but both the "aquilifer" and "probable" scutums show wavy lightning bolts.
Are there other depictions of the real LEG XIV shield emblem?
Modern interpretations of the LEG XIV umbo use the standard rectangular umbo but the umbo on the "probable" scutum is obviously not a rectangle and the umbo on the "aquilifer's" umbo sure looks to be almost square
The there's this: The image of Publius Flavoleius Cordus, a known ordinary soldier of LEG XIV. He is carrying a flat oval shield!
......images from Roman Army Talk image database
http://rlqm.com/LEG.XIV.Scutum.Info/%20 ... Cordus.jpg
The Aquilifer's shield looks more like a Fayun style shield.
The "probable" scutum is clearly not a rectangle. Another soldier in the grouping in image 5 on http://romanmilitaryequipment.co.uk/figures.htm has an elongated oval, another has a scutum that is similar to "probable's" scutum, (items "b" and "c") both with what could be rounded top and bottom edges...? The scutum in item "d" is much more like a rectangle. Is it artistic fudging? .. or an attempt to depict 3 styles of shields in use?
And then there's the shield of Publius.... a flat oval!
Can we be certain of the actual shape of a LEG XIV scutum for ordinary soldiers?
This led to a search for depictions of known LEG XIV shields
So far this is the only depiction of a known LEG XIV shield emblem that I've found:
----- images from Roman Army Talk image database
http://rlqm.com/LEG.XIV.Scutum.Info/Gn. ... LEGXIV.jpg
http://rlqm.com/LEG.XIV.Scutum.Info/Gn. ... tclsup.jpg
One gentleman states that the following image is of a probable LEG XIV shield as it's from a monument in Mainz, a place where XIV had been located.
-----images from MC BISHOP
http://rlqm.com/LEG.XIV.Scutum.Info/LEG ... .miles.jpg
http://rlqm.com/LEG.XIV.Scutum.Info/LEG ... closup.jpg
Modern interpretations of the LEG XIV shield emblem employ an angular lightning bolt, but both the "aquilifer" and "probable" scutums show wavy lightning bolts.
Are there other depictions of the real LEG XIV shield emblem?
Modern interpretations of the LEG XIV umbo use the standard rectangular umbo but the umbo on the "probable" scutum is obviously not a rectangle and the umbo on the "aquilifer's" umbo sure looks to be almost square
The there's this: The image of Publius Flavoleius Cordus, a known ordinary soldier of LEG XIV. He is carrying a flat oval shield!
......images from Roman Army Talk image database
http://rlqm.com/LEG.XIV.Scutum.Info/%20 ... Cordus.jpg
The Aquilifer's shield looks more like a Fayun style shield.
The "probable" scutum is clearly not a rectangle. Another soldier in the grouping in image 5 on http://romanmilitaryequipment.co.uk/figures.htm has an elongated oval, another has a scutum that is similar to "probable's" scutum, (items "b" and "c") both with what could be rounded top and bottom edges...? The scutum in item "d" is much more like a rectangle. Is it artistic fudging? .. or an attempt to depict 3 styles of shields in use?
And then there's the shield of Publius.... a flat oval!
Can we be certain of the actual shape of a LEG XIV scutum for ordinary soldiers?
Hibernicus
LEGIO IX HISPANA, USA
You cannot dig ditches in a toga!
[url:194jujcw]http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org[/url]
A nationwide club with chapters across N America
LEGIO IX HISPANA, USA
You cannot dig ditches in a toga!
[url:194jujcw]http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org[/url]
A nationwide club with chapters across N America
