05-05-2006, 11:16 AM
I find that there is surprisingly little a believer can argue about. They might say a lot and some are good at it, touching the hearts of humans, but they do not argue. How can a believer argue if simply robs the discussion of any chance precisely because he is a believer and believers do not want to weigh the uncertainties. A believer is certain, and hence will dismiss evidence that is against their emotionally charged beliefs while they admit "evidence" that they like. Anybody that questions the quality and quantity of their "evidence" is accused of being rational and/or scientific and of course everyone knows that "rationality is limited", that "science does not explain everything".
I am quite serious and stand by what I say when I say that what is funny (or tragic) is that the believers are those that are not being fair! They turn the cards on the table, refuse to follow any reasonable rules of discussion, and continuously avoid confrontation on any reasonable grounds.
The ectoplasm/ghost did not appear? Why of course it didn't because in the room there was someone with a bad attitude.
The phenomena did not manifest itself? Why of course it didn't because only a select few may have thay priviledge of seeing it.
The film did not record the phenomena? Why of course it didn't because the phenomena is supernatural (only natural things can affect a film).
A phenomena does not happen to you? It did to me. Believe me.
p.s. Would you have preferred a more "realistic" or typical story about marginal effects, statistically insignificant to a rational observer while too dear to the rigidly irrational one? Would you have preferred a story of shy effects, that do not manifest themselves if the observer is skeptical/hostile?
I am quite serious and stand by what I say when I say that what is funny (or tragic) is that the believers are those that are not being fair! They turn the cards on the table, refuse to follow any reasonable rules of discussion, and continuously avoid confrontation on any reasonable grounds.
The ectoplasm/ghost did not appear? Why of course it didn't because in the room there was someone with a bad attitude.
The phenomena did not manifest itself? Why of course it didn't because only a select few may have thay priviledge of seeing it.
The film did not record the phenomena? Why of course it didn't because the phenomena is supernatural (only natural things can affect a film).
A phenomena does not happen to you? It did to me. Believe me.
p.s. Would you have preferred a more "realistic" or typical story about marginal effects, statistically insignificant to a rational observer while too dear to the rigidly irrational one? Would you have preferred a story of shy effects, that do not manifest themselves if the observer is skeptical/hostile?
Jeffery Wyss
"Si vos es non secui of solutio tunc vos es secui of preciptate."
"Si vos es non secui of solutio tunc vos es secui of preciptate."
