04-13-2006, 03:49 PM
Quote:Ramesses II:2in3g2q7 Wrote:I don't believe science can explain everything.
Neither do I. Neither do any scientists. Science, however, has a pretty good track record when it comes to explaining things about the physical universe. And that includes constellations, the sun, the moon and any supposed 'influences' these things are meant to have on us the millisecond we pop out of our mothers.
Right, the physical universe. The non-physical stuff they can barely explain.
Quote:Quote:the moon regulates the tides of the ocean....why should it not regulate certain tides of human life.
Because we know how and why the moon regulates the tides - the different gravitational effects of the moon according to their vectors in relation to the geopotential surface of the unbounded water mass of the ocean. The physics of how the moon's gravity affects humans is totally different: the mass of a mother's body when holding her newborn child exerts about 12 million times more gravitational force than the moon at the same moment. A mosquito landing on your arm exerts more gravitational force than the moon at the same time.
So why does astrology single out the (supposed) tiny 'force' or 'influence' of bodies like the moon and sun at birth, and ignore the vastly greater force exerted by the proximity of the child's mother, a doctor, a midwife, some nurses or even a passing mosquito? And it gets even sillier when the 'force' of distant constellations supposedly needs to be factored in, despite the fact (i) they are millions of light years away and (ii) they aren't actually groups of stars anyway, they just look that way from earth.
Sorry if you don't like people pointing out how silly all this is or that the far more likely explanation is that the Babylonians were as 'right' about astrology as they were about the flatness of the earth or the usefulness of consulting goat entrails, but by any objective measure astrology is manifestly silly.
A civilization that used the astrology extremely well were the Egyptians. Can science explain the influence of Orion on men, especially those who build the Great Pyramids of Gizeh perfectly matching together perfectly according to Orion ? What is Orion ? Right ... 'stars' to us.
Quote:Ramesses II:2in3g2q7 Wrote:Astrology isn't just the star signs, astrology is also tarot (don't know if that's the correct English word), reincarnation, meditation, reiki, and so on.
That's a pretty broad definition of 'astrology'. Let's stick to the 'star sign' stuff for the sake of conciseness.
Fine by me, but then you don't have to say astrology is dumb, then you can say 'start signs are dumb.' Partly I give you right, many people take advantage of men's stupidity to make them believe stuff than are simply made up, like you say. But that are the magazine-horoscopes. Please do not compare magazine-horoscopes with the ones that are made by "professionals" (if I can call them that way). A friend of my mother made a horoscope just after when I was born, she said things about my character and stuff, things no one could know because I was a week old or so. Well after this 18 years, 90% of the stuff she said then seemed to be perfectly right. Horoscopes are made up and have no influence?
a.k.a. Daan Vanhamme