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Junkelmann/Stroh vs Strategikon re Commands
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I' m a late roman reenactor of the herculianis group. I prefers the Strategikon latin orders of course.

In fact, I dont know the Junkelman latin orders but for ours period i prefers the strategikon (i know, it is a few later... ) or a variation of the strategikon latin orders. In Ammianus we can find any terms if we compare with the origninal latin text.

Exemple:

[Qui nullam ad tuendam salutem uiam superesse cernents, nisi se celeri defendissent occursu, locorum gnaritate confisi unum spirantibus animis montem occupauere praecelsum, per confragosos colles undique praeruptum et inuium absque septentrionali latere, unde facilem habet deuexitatem et mollem signis ilico fixis ex more, cum undique ad arma conclamaretur, imperio principis et ductorum stetit regibilis miles, vexillum opperiens extollendum: quod erat oportune subeundae indicium pugnae.]
Ammianus Marcellinus, Res Gestae, Livre XXVII, chapitre 10 paragraphe 9, ligne 7.

Milites..."Ad arma!" (Soldiers all gather): It is possible

as like:

[Proinde quiete reficiendis corporibus data, signoque erecto, quod solet ad pugnam hortari, tubarum minacium accendente clangore, fidentissimo impetu acies motas prompte ante alios praeiere duo iuunes lecti in principiis adeundi discriminis, Saliuius et Lupicinus, Scutarius anus, alter e schola Gentilium, fragore terribili concitantes: hastasque crispando cum ad rupim obiecta uenissent, trudentibusque Alamannis euadere ad celsiora conarentur adwenit omne pondus armorum, isdemque antesignanis per hirta dumis et aspera magno uirium nisu in editas sublimitates erepsit.]
Ammianus Marcellinus, Res Gestae, Livre XXVII, chapitre 10, paragraphe 12, ligne 1.

So:
Milites… Ad Signo! : (Soldiers all gather) It is possible too. Rather than the strategikon latin order "Ad Bando"... too byzantine (bandon is an byzantine military unit...)

In Vegetius it is most difficult, maybe impossible except the word of war: Plama... Victory, Deus... Nothing clairly. But attention; for me the Epitoma rei militaris are most seriously source for the late IIIe and IVe century A. D. and a late roman army rather than the early empire!!!

The most important is a good research in original latin text for his period. it is an better historic base!!

Right: i dont like the total post modern reconstruction and over all the "sin dex song"... but I know that compromission is most easy...

A plus...
Paulus Claudius Damianus Marcellinus / Damien Deryckère.

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Messages In This Thread
stroh - by Hibernicus - 07-21-2005, 12:44 AM
Re: Junkelmann/Stroh vs Strategikon re Commands - by Paulus Claudius Damianus - 07-22-2005, 12:48 PM
can of worms...with garum... - by A_Volpe - 07-22-2005, 10:20 PM
Latin commands - by Caius Fabius - 07-24-2005, 04:19 PM
XIIII Commands - by Crispvs - 07-26-2005, 01:09 AM
Re: Latin commands - by Ross Cowan - 07-27-2005, 09:54 AM
Stratigekon information - by Caius Fabius - 07-28-2005, 06:49 PM
The century starts in 01 :D - by Caius Fabius - 07-28-2005, 07:51 PM
Tranliterated? - by marsvigilia - 08-03-2005, 05:51 PM

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