08-28-2015, 12:45 AM
Thank you for the responses. That is an interesting point by M.C Bishop, however, I am not sure I agree with the fact that those are folds with a leather edge. Other stela with mail clearly show a doubler and leather edge. When I look at that picture, to me, those lines are three separate sections of similar size and going from the torso to the arm, they get shorter.....as in segmentata. T.C depictions of a seggie are also not correct entirely and yet........
I know on one of those depictions that a doubler is envisioned with a spear going through the center making it look like two pieces. However, when looking at the depiction to the right, again to me, there are three clear sections.
I am not intending on reproducing this armor. However, on the Roma Victrix website, there is a picture where the shoulders have been interpreted to be scale with the lower torso in seggie plates. As I was looking through the Peterson book today, I came across the photo of the seggie with the mail bottom. So, I thought that there was solid merit.
Dan, in speaking with Erik long ago, he mentioned there was some sort of physical evidence for this type of armor.
One thing though, I do not think we can categorically say any longer if the Romans would have done certain things or not..........it is obvious to me that any combination of existing armor would have been possible if not likely even in the absence of actual artifacts. I for one still do things according to the actual evidence and do not venture into the realm of possibility as my first statement of this paragraph suggests. However, I am slowly getting away from this very narrow view that nothing else is possible because this is what we only have.
Maybe its because I am a chemist and know things are a certain way not because I observed them directly but because the surrounding evidence suggests a strong possibility.
I know on one of those depictions that a doubler is envisioned with a spear going through the center making it look like two pieces. However, when looking at the depiction to the right, again to me, there are three clear sections.
I am not intending on reproducing this armor. However, on the Roma Victrix website, there is a picture where the shoulders have been interpreted to be scale with the lower torso in seggie plates. As I was looking through the Peterson book today, I came across the photo of the seggie with the mail bottom. So, I thought that there was solid merit.
Dan, in speaking with Erik long ago, he mentioned there was some sort of physical evidence for this type of armor.
One thing though, I do not think we can categorically say any longer if the Romans would have done certain things or not..........it is obvious to me that any combination of existing armor would have been possible if not likely even in the absence of actual artifacts. I for one still do things according to the actual evidence and do not venture into the realm of possibility as my first statement of this paragraph suggests. However, I am slowly getting away from this very narrow view that nothing else is possible because this is what we only have.
Maybe its because I am a chemist and know things are a certain way not because I observed them directly but because the surrounding evidence suggests a strong possibility.
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