01-18-2015, 07:17 PM
Renatus
It becomes apparent to me that you clearly do not have understanding of what I'm trying to get through to you about phalerae these things would have been made by artistic craftsmen who I don't think would have allowed anyone else to make any part of them, and where you do not understand by saying that back plates would make templates for the maker of the facings is also where you fail to understand that the picture size determines the size of these back plates therefore when the maker finished his picture he then made the back plate required for that particular phalera.
Then where you mention that where the maker made a picture too small it would be compensated for by more overlap is indeed not not the case, these things have boarders with edges and those edges of the pictures determine the diameter of each back plate.
Then where you get the idea that some of the Lauersfort plates may have had to be cut down or loosing some of the relief shows clearly shows you do not understand phalerae or indeed their construction. Then as far as the names these are simply scratched on and for some reason we will maybe never know the names just have finisdhed up on the inside, in fact where we look at the back plates of the Lauersfort with their fixing rings there is no name there at all so the name had to be on the inside but is not the name of any owner at all.
I find you are confusing yourself about different people at one point making back plates and an artistic craftsman making pictures then trying to get them to fit his work to them not so he makes the phalera picture then he makes his back plate that fits perfect regardless of how much overlap there might be it can be more it can be less that is neither here nor there.
It becomes apparent to me that you clearly do not have understanding of what I'm trying to get through to you about phalerae these things would have been made by artistic craftsmen who I don't think would have allowed anyone else to make any part of them, and where you do not understand by saying that back plates would make templates for the maker of the facings is also where you fail to understand that the picture size determines the size of these back plates therefore when the maker finished his picture he then made the back plate required for that particular phalera.
Then where you mention that where the maker made a picture too small it would be compensated for by more overlap is indeed not not the case, these things have boarders with edges and those edges of the pictures determine the diameter of each back plate.
Then where you get the idea that some of the Lauersfort plates may have had to be cut down or loosing some of the relief shows clearly shows you do not understand phalerae or indeed their construction. Then as far as the names these are simply scratched on and for some reason we will maybe never know the names just have finisdhed up on the inside, in fact where we look at the back plates of the Lauersfort with their fixing rings there is no name there at all so the name had to be on the inside but is not the name of any owner at all.
I find you are confusing yourself about different people at one point making back plates and an artistic craftsman making pictures then trying to get them to fit his work to them not so he makes the phalera picture then he makes his back plate that fits perfect regardless of how much overlap there might be it can be more it can be less that is neither here nor there.
Brian Stobbs
