Phalera constructions

[Renatus]

With my overlap of the pictures compared to the one you mention on the original Lauersfort is neither here nor there for it is just one of those things but if you understand anything about this fold over all that metal does not hold down against the plate it is only the area near the edge that is doing the holding . . . no two phalera are exactly the same and such adjustment of plate size has to be considered, where there is more overlap on the original one of the Lauersfort you mention it is where the maker has simply not trimmed down the flange of the picture that is always there while the phalera is being made but his plate had to fit the width of his picture he would not be concerned about that amount of overlap as I would also not be.

I clearly misunderstood the point that you were making. I thought that you were saying that the reason why the maker of the backplates and of the facings had to be the same was because he had to get his measurements exactly right, so that the parts would fit with minimal overlapping. If you say that the amount of overlap is immaterial and that you have simply trimmed yours for the sake of neatness, then there is a margin of error and, in my view, the case for the makers being the same is weakened.

with the Newstead . . . those bell caps in my opinion are on the inside of the back plate along with the name therefore the view you are getting is where your looking at a phalera where its picture is now missing had there been a one the overlap would be around the other side of that plate.

I see what you mean. I had overlooked that. Nevertheless, I still think that it would be helpful to know what the other side looks like.

The plates as well as the pictures would be made by the same man for any knowledge or experience of making these things shows that no two phalera are exactly the same and such adjustment of plate size has to be considered

If this were so, it would completely demolish the case for the name inscribed on the backplates being the name of the maker. Why would he bother to inscribe his own name on a surface that was immediately due to be hidden from view?