05-27-2011, 01:33 AM
The vase is Malibu 77.AE.11. It is interesting for a number of reasons. See attached the portion to the left of what Giannis posted over the part he showed. Not only does it show what appear to be ranks and files as Giannis says, but look at the way the Amazons are intertwined, one fighting around the other. I think the first two ranks fought in a phalanx, so this is nice to see. Also, note the way the shields are held. We often see the shields held edge on so that we can see the blazons as on the chigi. Here we do as well, but at least two of the combatants show the shield facing the enemy, up at an angle as hoplite more likely fought. Whether this represents a moving vs fighting posture or simply a point at which it was obvious that artistic liscense had to give way to reality I cannot say. The combatant using his spear underhand also has the shield in the non-combat position, so perhaps this means something.
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Paul M. Bardunias
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A Spartan, being asked a question, answered "No." And when the questioner said, "You lie," the Spartan said, "You see, then, that it is stupid of you to ask questions to which you already know the answer!"
