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Origins of the \'Hollywood\' Roman salute?
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Just got back from the library, and for the heckuvit, I checked out Richard Brilliant's Gesture and Rank in Roman Art.

Not much of use on the salute I'm afraid. Every raised hand on the column of Trajan he identifies as a gesture of acclaim and not a specific military salute. The scene mentioned earlier in this thread is one he cites. He points out that the barbarians/dacians are shown in similar attitudes when Trajan offers them clemency, so that would tend to argue against those raised hands being specfic military salutes, but rather raised arms in general acclaim, as in the 'rock concert' theory. (No word on whether Romans made use of bic lighters. :wink: )

Otherwise Brilliant's treatment is entirely unsatisfying.

Every gesture by an emperor that resembles the open-handed salute, or raised hand with two or three fingers he describes as a gesture of oration or adlocutio, which seems rather ad hoc. It's rather circular after a while.

Oh well.
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They thought it was - by Carlton Bach - 12-30-2004, 08:38 AM
Re: Irony? - by Anonymous - 12-30-2004, 12:26 PM
Re: Irony? - by Lucius Aurelius Metellus - 12-30-2004, 03:04 PM
Re: Irony? - by Carlton Bach - 12-30-2004, 03:31 PM
Ave Caesar? - by Anonymous - 12-30-2004, 06:04 PM
Re: Ave Caesar? - by Anonymous - 12-31-2004, 12:56 AM
swastika use - by Anonymous - 12-31-2004, 03:45 AM
Finns - by Paullus - 12-31-2004, 04:31 AM
Re: Finns - by Anonymous - 12-31-2004, 09:55 AM
Gladiators and Americans - by Gashford - 12-31-2004, 12:28 PM
Re: Gladiators and Americans - by Jeroen Pelgrom - 12-31-2004, 12:58 PM
Americans - by Carlton Bach - 12-31-2004, 12:59 PM
Re: Americans - by Caius Fabius - 01-01-2005, 12:10 AM
Re: Americans - by Anonymous - 01-02-2005, 02:58 AM
Re: Americans - by mcbishop - 01-02-2005, 03:07 PM
The Roman Salute - by FlaviusCrispus - 01-02-2005, 06:39 PM
Re: The Roman Salute - by FlaviusCrispus - 01-02-2005, 11:25 PM
Germanicus - by Theodosius the Great - 01-03-2005, 05:42 AM
Re: Germanicus - by FlaviusCrispus - 01-03-2005, 07:16 AM
Re: Germanicus - by Uwe Bahr - 01-03-2005, 11:51 AM
Re: Germanicus - by Jasper Oorthuys - 01-03-2005, 12:16 PM
Re: Germanicus - by mcbishop - 01-03-2005, 01:23 PM
Re: Germanicus - by FlaviusCrispus - 01-03-2005, 04:50 PM
Re: Germanicus - by Anonymous - 01-03-2005, 08:53 PM
Re: salute - by Anonymous - 01-03-2005, 10:49 PM
The Ahenobarbus "salute" - by Gregg - 01-04-2005, 01:24 AM
Re: The Ahenobarbus "salute" - by FlaviusCrispus - 01-04-2005, 01:57 AM
Re: The Ahenobarbus "salute" - by Jeroen Pelgrom - 01-04-2005, 07:57 AM
Re: The Ahenobarbus "salute" - by rekirts - 01-04-2005, 04:20 PM
Re: Roman Salute - by Theodosius the Great - 01-06-2005, 01:11 AM
Re:Roman Salute - by Anonymous - 01-10-2005, 09:03 AM
Re:Roman Salute - by Anonymous - 01-10-2005, 09:19 AM
Re: Re:Roman Salute - by FlaviusCrispus - 01-10-2005, 08:27 PM
Re: Re:Roman Salute - by Jeroen Pelgrom - 01-11-2005, 08:35 AM
Re: Re:Roman Salute - by Tarbicus - 01-14-2005, 03:26 AM
Re: Re:Roman Salute - by ambrosius - 01-15-2005, 09:07 AM
Salute - by Theodosius the Great - 01-17-2005, 12:07 PM
Re: Salute - by John Maddox Roberts - 01-17-2005, 09:45 PM
Re: Salute - by Nathan Ross - 01-18-2005, 02:00 AM
Re: Salute - by FlaviusCrispus - 01-18-2005, 05:45 AM
Re: Salute - by aitor iriarte - 01-18-2005, 07:00 AM
Re: Salute - by drsrob - 01-18-2005, 08:07 PM
Roman salute with the straight arm - by Uwe Bahr - 10-26-2005, 11:49 AM
An imposter, I say! - by FlaviusCrispus - 10-27-2005, 12:54 AM
More on salute... - by FlaviusCrispus - 10-27-2005, 01:03 AM
Re: More on salute... - by Theodosius the Great - 10-27-2005, 05:33 AM
Re: Origins of the \'Hollywood\' Roman salute? - by tlclark - 12-21-2005, 09:27 PM
Roman Salute - by Graham Sumner - 12-23-2005, 08:54 PM
Re: Germanicus - by Primitivus - 04-14-2006, 06:00 PM
salute - by Graham Sumner - 04-24-2006, 02:32 PM
Re: salute - by tlclark - 04-24-2006, 05:05 PM
Re: salute - by Tarbicus - 04-24-2006, 06:04 PM

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