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Kalkreise dates to 15-16 AD Germanicus Campaign-NOT Varus!
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Quote:</em></strong><hr>More serious indeed is the criticism from the Tübinger numismatcian Reinhard Wolters, who has re-evalued the coin finds, and proposes that issues dating between 9 and 16 AD do not come from Varus, but from a later battle.<hr><br>
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Unfortunately, it appears Wolters published this in one of the "Klio" issues in 2003. Well, Klio costs 200+ euros per 2 issues (that's a whole year's worth) and it doesn't sell separate articles on-line, like many decent scientific journals, so...<br>
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And you read the article too fast, Vorty. The argument is, like I wrote before, that the ABSENCE of the Lugdunum II as might no longer be proof for the dating of the Kalkriese encounter BEFORE 10 AD. It might - just might - have taken place between 12 and 14 AD, before - so Wolters, if the Spiegel article is right - the Lugdunum II as was coined, again, according to Wolters' controversial theory.<br>
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For those of you who can read German, it might be useful download the following pdf file:<br>
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www.geschichte.uni-osnabr...hlacht.pdf<br>
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It's a fairly recent (2002) overview of the literary and archaeological evidence concerning the location of the battle.<br>
And unlike Klio, it's for free...<br>
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Andreas Baede
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Kalkriese - by Wagnijo - 03-17-2004, 07:14 PM
Re: Kalkriese - by Anonymous - 03-17-2004, 08:13 PM
varus - by Anonymous - 03-18-2004, 11:28 AM
Kalkreise - by Robert Vermaat - 03-21-2004, 05:40 PM
Re: Kalkreise - by Chariovalda - 03-21-2004, 05:52 PM
Kalkreise - by Robert Vermaat - 03-21-2004, 05:57 PM
Re: Kalkreise - by Chariovalda - 03-21-2004, 08:27 PM
Re: Kalkriese: the "Rourke\'s Drift" of Germanicus\' - by Anonymous - 03-23-2004, 03:27 AM
Re: Kalkriese - by Uwe Bahr - 03-23-2004, 01:30 PM
Re: Kalkriese - by Robert Vermaat - 03-23-2004, 02:29 PM
Re: Kalkriese - by Chariovalda - 03-23-2004, 07:52 PM
Re: Kalkriese - by Daniel S Peterson - 03-23-2004, 08:51 PM
Re: Kalkriese - by Robert Vermaat - 03-24-2004, 12:47 AM
Re: Kalkriese - by Daniel S Peterson - 03-24-2004, 05:20 PM
Re: Kalkriese - by Robert Vermaat - 03-24-2004, 06:52 PM
Re: Kalkriese - by Daniel S Peterson - 03-24-2004, 07:29 PM
Re: Kalkriese - by Vincula - 03-25-2004, 12:09 PM
Re: Kalkriese - by Chariovalda - 03-25-2004, 04:14 PM
Re: Kalkriese - by DECIMvS MERCATIvS VARIANvS - 03-25-2004, 04:45 PM
the reasons why - by Daniel S Peterson - 03-26-2004, 12:35 AM
Re: the reasons why - by Chariovalda - 03-26-2004, 08:15 AM
Re: Kalkriese - new unknown helmet - by Uwe Bahr - 03-27-2004, 05:15 PM
Re: haughty "professionals" - by JRSCline - 03-28-2004, 06:35 AM
Re: haughty "professionals" - by JRSCline - 03-28-2004, 12:59 PM
Re: haughty "professionals" - by Chariovalda - 03-28-2004, 02:10 PM
> Re: haughty "professionals" - by Anonymous - 03-28-2004, 02:45 PM
Question - by Anonymous - 03-31-2004, 02:12 AM
Re: Question - by Chariovalda - 03-31-2004, 05:44 AM
Re: Question - by Vincula - 03-31-2004, 03:12 PM
Re: Question - by Daniel S Peterson - 04-02-2004, 04:54 PM
VAR Countermark is not Varus - by raeticus - 04-07-2004, 01:24 AM
Re: VAR Countermark is not Varus - by Chariovalda - 04-07-2004, 07:34 AM
VAR an early Tiberian CMK ? - by raeticus - 04-07-2004, 12:20 PM
Re: Politicizing Archaeology - by Bill Altimari - 04-19-2004, 03:22 AM
Re: Politicizing Archaeology - by Anonymous - 04-19-2004, 05:08 AM
Re: Politicizing Archaeology - by aitor iriarte - 04-19-2004, 05:48 AM
Re: Politicizing Archaeology - by drsrob - 04-19-2004, 06:07 AM
relativism - by Goffredo - 04-19-2004, 06:45 AM
Re: relativism - by drsrob - 04-19-2004, 06:50 AM
yes it is - by Goffredo - 04-19-2004, 07:40 AM
Objectivity & Relativism - by Chariovalda - 04-19-2004, 09:22 AM
relativistic pride - by Goffredo - 04-19-2004, 10:38 AM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Bill Altimari - 04-19-2004, 02:59 PM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Anonymous - 04-19-2004, 04:10 PM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Chariovalda - 04-19-2004, 04:16 PM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Chariovalda - 04-19-2004, 04:27 PM
sorry but maybe getting out of hand - by Goffredo - 04-19-2004, 04:35 PM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Gaius Decius Aquilius - 04-19-2004, 05:38 PM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Chariovalda - 04-19-2004, 06:43 PM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Chariovalda - 04-19-2004, 06:54 PM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Gaius Decius Aquilius - 04-19-2004, 08:46 PM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Vincula - 04-19-2004, 09:13 PM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Gaius Decius Aquilius - 04-19-2004, 09:51 PM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Chariovalda - 04-20-2004, 07:06 AM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Anonymous - 04-20-2004, 04:55 PM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Vincula - 04-20-2004, 08:32 PM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Chariovalda - 04-21-2004, 06:54 AM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by JRSCline - 04-22-2004, 10:45 AM
Re: Politicizing archaeology - by Anonymous - 04-22-2004, 01:36 PM
VARvS battle....... - by Anonymous - 04-25-2004, 08:39 PM
And again... - by caiusbeerquitius - 05-02-2004, 03:44 AM
Re: VARvS battle....... - by aitor iriarte - 05-02-2004, 07:57 AM
BANNED... - by caiusbeerquitius - 05-03-2004, 12:32 AM
Re: VARvS battle....... - by aitor iriarte - 05-03-2004, 10:38 AM
Re: VARvS battle....... - by caiusbeerquitius - 05-03-2004, 05:52 PM
Re: VARvS battle....... - by aitor iriarte - 05-03-2004, 05:58 PM
Re: VARvS battle....... - by Anonymous - 05-03-2004, 08:55 PM
Re: VARvS battle....... - by aitor iriarte - 05-04-2004, 04:48 AM
Re: VARvS battle....... - by Anonymous - 05-28-2004, 02:55 PM
Re: VARvS battle....... - by Robert Vermaat - 05-28-2004, 04:46 PM
Re: VARvS battle....... - by Quintius Clavus - 05-29-2004, 12:47 AM
Re: VARvS battle....... - by Anonymous - 05-29-2004, 09:32 AM
Re: VARvS battle....... - by Robert Vermaat - 05-29-2004, 10:14 AM

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