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websites ect for buying bone?
#16
Why is the bone less dense now?

To much forced feeding on modern agricultural practice? Too many steroids? :?

Brennius, would you conside a regrip job?
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#17
Quote:Why is the bone less dense now?

Because a lot of modern cattle almost doesn't move any more. they just stand in their stable boxes. This way there can be no bone developement and the bone remains thin and weak...
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#18
RE GRIP JOB I have never heard of this perversion before :lol: :lol:
What is it you want :?:
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#19
So range cattle is preferable to dairy, obviously!

But then, the dqairy cattle back home also runs around the range a bit too! :? We went out and rounded them up for milking if I recall correctly!
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#20
True, some of the modern cattle has better bone. But most commercially available dog bones come from cattle that hasn't moved around a lot I guess :wink:
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#21
Quote:HA thanks for that Memmia laudes to you for that one Big Grin D I have been raking my brains on that one, now to the nearist butcher.
Many thanks Big Grin
Regards Brennivs Big Grin

Salve Brennivs,

I have just found this site which gives other options. I'm not sure about hydrogen peroxide though as the acidity could weaken the bones. It depends what you are going to make. Caustic soda is fine to use as long as you are careful and is more effective than sodium carbonate*. This method is used by biologists to prepare specimens.

http://www.celticgarb.org/crafts/knucklebone.html

It states in the article not to use aluminium pans or cutlery when boiling, that is a very good point. You'll get hydrogen bubbles! Confusedhock:
In fact you probably won'tneed to boil when using caustic soda, so a plastic pot will be OK

* If you try the sodium carbonate method instead , don't use biological washing powder as a substitute- the enzymes in it will begin to digest the bones :lol:
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#22
Just make sure you take all the necessary precautions, and dont get it on your skin, as it is very 'caustic' so to speak! Goggles, rubber gloves and apron.....gauntlet type gloves would be best!
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#23
Quote:Just make sure you take all the necessary precautions, and dont get it on your skin, as it is very 'caustic' so to speak! Goggles, rubber gloves and apron.....gauntlet type gloves would be best!

Yes, full PPE, a risk assessment and a method statement before you start :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#24
Caustic soda is no laughing matter young lady! Confusedhock: :roll: :? o shock: :roll: :!: :?: Confusedhock: Confusedhock: :?

A work permit too! :lol:
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#25
Quote:A work permit too! :lol:

:lol:

P.S. Joking aside, do be very careful with that stuff. Start with a 1% solution in water and wear gloves and goggles at least.
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#26
cleaning bones...
first, I use the descendants of Spanish cattle brought to the USA 400 years ago, and which ran wild until taken from the wildlife park as they thinned the herd. I bought a few and all my cattle come from that breed. Peter Connolly said that he believed that the photos looked like the cattle the Romans used, which were originally from North Africa and then came via Spain. My cattle are constantly roaming, they don't have sheds or barns.

To clean the bones, I leave them out near a red ant nest (under an over turned wheel barrow) for a few weeks. The bones are ivory colored unless they are 2 or 3 years out in the sun, when they turn white, but more difficult to work, due to dehydration and other weathering (the sun bakes the bones).

No messy chemicals, no 'impact statements', and I doubt I want to go through the paperwork to ship bones and horns to the EU!
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#27
Hi Brennivs,

Tried this website?

http://www.traditionalmaterials.co.uk/html/main.php
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#28
Some resources, most of them from germany:

http://www.bladesandmore.de/Zum_Verkauf ... alien.html

http://www.hudsons-bay.de/online-shop-o ... 0_0_0.html

http://www.dick.biz/cgi-bin/dick.storef ... iew/831154

http://www.cornely.fr/modules/produits/produits.asp ?
mod=liste&selection=2

I hope it helps you!
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#29
Thanks to all respondents Big Grin D !:
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#30
I have a good size partial Whitetailed Deer antler, not sure if it is the size you want. You are welcome to it if you want.

Wes
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