07-31-2007, 03:57 AM
Good point...you're right
---AH Mervla, aka Joel Boynton
Legio XIIII, Gemina Martia Victrix
Legio XIIII, Gemina Martia Victrix
WHITE OR COLORED?
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07-31-2007, 03:57 AM
Good point...you're right
---AH Mervla, aka Joel Boynton
Legio XIIII, Gemina Martia Victrix
08-01-2007, 04:55 PM
Quote:http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa47/Fichtenbrenner/Laudes for Marcus For the coloured Trajan Column this was a 20 years old reconstruction made by Bianchi Bandinelly for an exhibit. I don't know web resources for that, but I hope to get one pic of it. (after the vacations....)
08-01-2007, 11:00 PM
Grazzi, Luca !! I know I have seen it posted on a roman web-site earlier.
If it was twenty-odd years old, then I guess the colours will have been speculative - but I had the impression that it was this that persuaded some of the 'Batavians' to go from "Connolly Green" to Red shield design ?
"dulce et decorum est pro patria mori " - Horace
(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country) "No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton Paul McDonnell-Staff
08-01-2007, 11:11 PM
Coloured. By a long chalk.
Jon R.
There are no real truths, just stories. (Zuni)
08-02-2007, 06:52 AM
Yes, I think too that many of the colours were speculative because I remember one detail: a lot of black everywhere. I don't think black was a commonly used tint.
I've heard about some old books that reported the traces of the remaining colours in the middle 1800, but I have never read them.
08-02-2007, 04:36 PM
Quote: I love to bring up Uta and her stout (ok, bovine) man Ekkehart when people start rambling about the lack of naturalism in high medieval art. I saw the Istanbul exhibition last year. Great show. If there is one thing we should shoot down like a sick bird it is the "pure white classical" image of ancient statuary. COLORED! It's the same thing with medieval statues (and parts of the exteriors and interiors of buildings for that matter). The grey/white/natural stone color should go, replaced by the colors that, to modern eyes, looks rather garish. Bugger classicism and neoclassicism and their hospital-white image of the past.
08-02-2007, 08:02 PM
Does anyone have pictures of ancient statues of famous people that are colored in like of Hannibal or Scipio etc?
The children of Doom...Doom\'\'s children. They told my lord the way to the mountain of power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the earth...HA!! time enough for the earth in the grave.
James
08-02-2007, 08:17 PM
Regarding skin colours, close inspection on many statues has shown that the skin surfaces seemed to have been polished smooth whereas the painted parts are much rougher. This would indicate that the skin was left uncoloured and just highly buffed, but the clothing/ hair was left rough, maybe an added benefit was to allow the paint to key to the surface.
(Edited- Info already on 1st page)
Memmia AKA Joanne Wenlock.
Friends of Letocetum
08-02-2007, 09:42 PM
.....hmmmmm, Luca, the illustration I saw didn't seem to be overly black - but I will just have to wait and see when you post your illustration, AFIK, traces of paint on the column were visible in the 1830's ( but infuriatingly no description of these) --and was this original, or a later re-paint?? :? ( ( ( (
"dulce et decorum est pro patria mori " - Horace
(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country) "No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton Paul McDonnell-Staff
08-03-2007, 03:50 PM
Oh god lol. I thought this was another tunic debate because of the title
Michael Paglia
08-05-2007, 12:52 AM
When I saw the title, I thought it was about the public restrooms of my Southern youth.
Pecunia non olet
03-05-2008, 07:14 PM
[size=85:2j3qgc52]- Carsten -[/size]
03-06-2008, 09:00 AM
Great job Carsten! A laudes to you. I see the weather also improved considerably!
Robert Vermaat
MODERATOR FECTIO Late Romans THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST (Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
03-06-2008, 09:03 AM
I only miss some parts of the original statues on the colered overworked images. Why did you remove the supporting parts? They're important to the statue as a whole.
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Jvrjenivs Peregrinvs Magnvs / FEBRVARIVS A.K.A. Jurjen Draaisma CORBVLO and Fectio ALA I BATAVORUM
03-06-2008, 11:48 AM
Robert wrote:
Quote:I see the weather also improved considerably!lol. Just thought the old guys deserve a bright day Jvrjenivs wrote: Quote:Why did you remove the supporting parts?@Jvrjenivs: Then I colored the sculptures, my intention was to "reconstruct" the human being as close as possible and less the statue with all its "propaganda" or just supporting elements ... I didn't know this thread (and even RAT in Augustus case :-D D ) before, but you are right and I'll do a second version in future ... (except the Tiberius-bust, which I "painted" before ;-) ) ) As details on the statue are concerned, some elements are missing or unclear due to the quality of the basic images or the statue itself (e.g. Caesars sword grip), I've to work with. Sometimes I don't even know what a detail represents (e.g. the "thing" in Caesars right hand) and can't color it properly. But just let me know if you think that something is entirely out of place ;-) ) ... I'll try to be more accurate next time ... greetings, Carsten
[size=85:2j3qgc52]- Carsten -[/size]
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