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Villa Buried By Eruption Near Pompeii Has Been Unearthed
#1
Some colorful frescos are pictured in this article :


[url:terqgo38]http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/22/wpomp22.xml[/url]

I wish they'd hurry up and save that library :!: :evil:

Where's Mussolini when you need him :?: :lol:
Jaime
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#2
Lovely fresco......can't wait to see the rest of the villa....shows how some things don't change much in 2,000 years..... Big Grin
what library...?
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Arthes
Cristina
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#3
Hi Arthes,

Quote: what library...?

Oh, I read about a library in Pompeii that's in imminent danger of being sealed off forever along with its hundreds of scrolls. It seems the excavators can't raise the needed funds to save its contents. I don't know why the Italian government doesn't just subsidize the effort :?

This was last year, BTW :roll:
Jaime
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#4
Oh wait, my mistake. The library's in Herculaneum not Pompeii.

Here's an article I just dug up :

[url:xy7yyjg2]http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/2002/05/15/0514conn.html[/url]
Jaime
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#5
Greetings,
Quote:="Theodosius the Great"Here's an article I just dug up :
From Pompeii or Herculaneum..... :lol:
Wierd......if this villa was buried in 79AD, how can they have writings of Diogenes of Oenoanda who lived in the 2nd century AD.....which is listed in the 'Friends of Herculaneum Society' Papyri ?
[url:3c6lswy0]http://www.herculaneum.ox.ac.uk/books.html[/url]
I only checked it out, as I thought it was the Diogenes who Alexander talked to.... :?
regards
Arthes
Cristina
The Hoplite Association
[url:n2diviuq]http://www.hoplites.org[/url]
The enemy is less likely to get wind of an advance of cavalry, if the orders for march were passed from mouth to mouth rather than announced by voice of herald, or public notice. Xenophon
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#6
Quote:From Pompeii or Herculaneum.....
:lol:

Right, same disaster either way :roll: :lol: :wink:

Vale.
Jaime
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#7
"a library in Pompeii that's in imminent danger of being sealed off forever along with its hundreds of scrolls."

That is, if there IS still a second library to be discovered. I think that it IS quite likely that the villa contained more than one library. The problem I see is that we don't know where the other libraries would have been, although we can make educated guesses, and we don't know whether they had already been stripped of their books before the villa was buried. I have read that slaves had been carting crates of books to safety when they were overcome by the eruption. I have also read that shelves were found which contained thousands of scrolls. Additionally, I have read that for around twenty years workmen threw what they thought were lumps of coal into the sea, not realising that they were actually books. This makes me wonder if the discarded books (and we have no idea how many were thrown away) might have been the contents of one of the other libraries, as may have been the books in the crates (were these mistaken for coal and thrown away as well?), while the books still on shelves may have been the one library which had yet to be cleared of its precious contents. This would mean that the other library or libraries would not be there to be found.
Now, obviously, I hope that this is not the case and that a futher intact library can be found which might contain, for example, Caesar's speeches and poems, Lucullus's or Pompey's campaign diaries, Marius or Sulla's letters, a full edition of Livy (the list could go on and on). I just have this feeling that we should perhaps try to be restrained in our hopes, hope as we might.

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Greetings,
Quote:"a library in Pompeii that's in imminent danger of being sealed off forever along with its hundreds of scrolls."

That is, if there IS still a second library to be discovered. I think that it IS quite likely that the villa contained more than one library. The problem I see is that we don't know where the other libraries would have been, although we can make educated guesses, and we don't know whether they had already been stripped of their books before the villa was buried. I have read that slaves had been carting crates of books to safety when they were overcome by the eruption. I have also read that shelves were found which contained thousands of scrolls. Additionally, I have read that for around twenty years workmen threw what they thought were lumps of coal into the sea, not realising that they were actually books. This makes me wonder if the discarded books (and we have no idea how many were thrown away) might have been the contents of one of the other libraries, as may have been the books in the crates (were these mistaken for coal and thrown away as well?), while the books still on shelves may have been the one library which had yet to be cleared of its precious contents. This would mean that the other library or libraries would not be there to be found.
Now, obviously, I hope that this is not the case and that a futher intact library can be found which might contain, for example, Caesar's speeches and poems, Lucullus's or Pompey's campaign diaries, Marius or Sulla's letters, a full edition of Livy (the list could go on and on). I just have this feeling that we should perhaps try to be restrained in our hopes, hope as we might.
Crispvs
yes, that is true...
some of history's great questions could have been answered by those 'lumps of coals'. What an awful thought that somebody may have unwittingly ended up with papyri burning on their fire - I always hated the thought of burning fossils...let along anything else :x .
Hopefully somewhere under ruins or tumuli are still buried many more writings and inscriptions....that will be readable.
regards
Arthes
Cristina
The Hoplite Association
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The enemy is less likely to get wind of an advance of cavalry, if the orders for march were passed from mouth to mouth rather than announced by voice of herald, or public notice. Xenophon
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#9
AFAIK, the library from which they have been reading the books, contained, poets, poetry and more poetry. No complete histories of Sallust or Strabo or the military theories of Varro. Boy, what a sensation would that be!
Greets!

Jasper Oorthuys
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