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Germanic club warriors on Trajan\'s Column? Please help. - Thiudareiks Flavius - 07-06-2006
I'm helping the development team for the Rome Total War Europa Barbarorum mod on making the 'Sweboz'/Germanic faction units more distinctive and authentic. We are reducing the number of sword-armed units and replacing several of them with club-armed warriors instead.
One of the modellers has come back to us with some great new unit models, including some suitably wild and shaggy-haired Chattian 'oath warriors', but the clubs on these units are wooden with metal spikes, which is definitely not accurate.
To give him a guide for adjusting him, I'm trying to find some primary source material which depicts Germanic war clubs, but with no success so far. I seem to recall some Germanic clubmen auxilia in one scene on Trajan's Column (?? I think), but can't find a picture of them anywhere.
Can anyone help?
German club warriors on Trajan\'s Column - Quintius Clavus - 07-07-2006
Try getting hold of a copy of "Trajan's Column and the Dacian Wars" by Lino Rossi. It is an entire photographic study of the Column.
Quinton/Marcus Quintius Clavus
Re: German club warriors on Trajan\'s Column - Thiudareiks Flavius - 07-07-2006
Quote:Try getting hold of a copy of "Trajan's Column and the Dacian Wars" by Lino Rossi. It is an entire photographic study of the Column.
Quinton/Marcus Quintius Clavus
I'll see if I can find a copy this weekend. But is there an online resource with photos of the whole column? And does anyone know the figures I'm referring to? I'm reasonably certain they are in one of the Column's scenes, but my memory could be faulty.
Re: Germanic club warriors on Trajan\'s Column? Please help. - Jona Lendering - 07-07-2006
Have you already tried this link?
Re: Germanic club warriors on Trajan\'s Column? Please help. - Jeroen Pelgrom - 07-07-2006
i think the picture you are referring to is is Spiral Number 17, Panel A of Trajan's column - there is a drawing of that in Greece & Rome at war of Peter Connolly.
Re: Germanic club warriors on Trajan\'s Column? Please help. - D B Campbell - 07-07-2006
Quote:Have you already tried this link?
Unfortunately, the McMaster Project seems to have omitted the famous clubman figure.
He can be seen at the extreme right of their Spiral 10.
If you have Cichorius or Lepper/Frere, the clubman is in Scene LXX Cast 177/178. (Lepper/Frere unaccountably call him a "club-bearing clibanarius"!)
Quote:Spiral Number 17, Panel A of Trajan's column - there is a drawing of that in Greece & Rome at war of Peter ConnollyYou're right, Jeroen. There are another two clubmen in Scene CVIII Cast 288, which is again omitted from the McMaster Project. :roll: Connolly might be the best bet, indeed. His original painting (afaik) is in Mainz.
Re: Germanic club warriors on Trajan\'s Column? Please help. - Praefectusclassis - 07-07-2006
Hi Tim,
I have both Rossi & Lepper/Frere. Holler if you need scans.
Re: Germanic club warriors on Trajan\'s Column? Please help. - ShaneA - 07-08-2006
I don't recall how many photos they specifically have on the Trajan's Column because it is such a vast resource, but you might check this link.
[url:396fu6ek]http://rubens.anu.edu.au/[/url]
Shane Allee
Re: Germanic club warriors on Trajan\'s Column? Please help. - Thiudareiks Flavius - 07-13-2006
Thanks to all for their help. We've tracked down the appropriate pictures from Trajan's Column and the clubs on the Germanic models now look much more authentic.
Thanks again.