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Roman legionary in Poland? - Sclavinia - 04-28-2005
Supposedly 1 year ago in Obiszów, near Głogów in Poland is discovered a Roman officer's tomb. You know?? This is true or false? In German book for 1913 year Głogów (German "Glogau") may be roman camp...
(Sorry. I'm not speak English. I learn Deutsch).
Re: Roman legionary in Poland? - Praefectusclassis - 04-28-2005
Hi Sclavinia,
Welcome to RAT!
It would be interesting if that were true. Do you have any more information?
Poland - Caius Fabius - 04-28-2005
There was a Roman stele in the Warsaw Museum of history, but I could not get permission to photograph it, maybe they are related.
Re: Roman legionary in Poland? - Sclavinia - 04-29-2005
Near Obiszów is 2 fortiffied settlements (Iron age).
Book's title is "Geschichte der Stadt glogau und des Glogauer Landes", 1913, Julius Blafchke.
Legionary tomb may be lie - i learn this from my 2 friends.
PS.
You understand my "double talking"
??
Re: Roman legionary in Poland? - Uwe Bahr - 04-29-2005
Hi Sclavinia,
welcome to R.A.T. Your 'double talking' is very well understandle, I have only one correction. The author's name is surely Julius Blaschke - I googled through the web and found this man as Colonel of "Infantry Regiment Nr. 60 Carl von Nagy" that belonged to Austro-Hungarian army up to 1918. But unfortunately I found no reference to the grave of a Roman officer. It would be nice to hear more about this very interesting topic.
Greets - Uwe
Re: Roman legionary in Poland? - Sclavinia - 04-29-2005
Legionary tomb is no in this book. In this book i learn Głogów (Glogau) may be old Roman camp.
Re: Roman legionary in Poland? - Muzzaguchi - 04-29-2005
Hi Sclavinia,
Welcome to RAT. What period would be most likely for a camp to have been built do you think? Constantius in the fourth century?
Cheers
Murray
Re: Roman legionary in Poland? - Sclavinia - 04-30-2005
Hmm... IV century is too late. Max III century.
Re: Roman legionary in Poland? - Octavianvs - 05-02-2005
Gretings Sclavinia and welcome to the Forum! If it were a roman period tomb it should be outside the original setlement.
Re: Roman legionary in Poland? - Dan Diffendale - 05-03-2005
I'm not sure if this is what you're referring to... Głogów is in Silesia in southwestern Poland, and Melnik is a ways across the border in Bohemia in the north-central Czech Republic (not to be confused with the Melnik in Bulgaria). Strangely enough, the only news source I can find for this one is in Classical Greek(!) at Akropolis World News, but it's dated May 1, 2005: [url:2wwvn0mk]http://users.ox.ac.uk/~clas0078/news_latest/01_05_05.htm[/url]. The link to it is titled "Did Roman legions reach Bohemia?"
The essence of the Greek is that the remains of a Roman soldier have been discovered near Melnik in Bohemia, and it gives some historical background for Augustan campaigns in the region. Unfortunately there's no source or contact info or the like. Maybe someone who knows Czech can dig something out of Google (I can't seem to get anything...)?
Re: Roman legionary in Poland? - Sclavinia - 05-03-2005
A little more: Głogów is situated in ancient roman Amber Track.
MělnÃÂÂk - Alexandr K - 05-03-2005
Hi,
I'm from Czech Republic. The Romans certainly were in Czech Republic - we have even one permanent (or at least it was probably planed to be permanent) military encampment in south Moravia (locality MuÅ¡ov-Burgstall some 80 km north from Vindobona, from the time of Marcomanic wars) and some temporary camps (same period). However I have never heard about Roman finds near MělnÃÂÂk. There is a theory that the Roman army may have been operating in central Bohemia during the campaign of Tiberius and Saturninus against Maroboduus in AD 6, but there isn't any archaeological evidence for this (so far as I know).
I'll ask and then I'll let you know.
Greetings
Alexandr Kolouch
Re: Roman legionary in Poland? - Dan Diffendale - 05-03-2005
The Greek refers to an Augustan campaign against "Makoboudos" in AD 6. I've emailed the guy who runs the site, so hopefully we'll have more info soon.
Re: Roman legionary in Poland? - Dan Diffendale - 05-03-2005
I should have double-checked my Greek... stratopedon is an encampment, not a foot-soldier... :oops:
The remains of a Roman CAMP were found, not the remains of a SOLDIER. He said his source was an item posted on http://www.culturaclasica.com/ a while ago, but unfortunately they don't seem to have archived it.
Re: Roman legionary in Poland? - Alexandr K - 05-05-2005
Hi,
I've talked to an archeologist about the findings at MělnÃÂÂk. He said, there has been found a ditch which looked like a typical Roman "V" shaped ditch. No other proofs that it's Roman. So while it could be part of a Roman camp, it could easily be from other period of history. He is rather sceptical about it being a Roman camp.
Greetings
Alexandr