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Speaking of Cannae... - Narukami - 08-02-2010
The Roman casualties at Cannae -- would they be considered 50% of the total Roman Army at that time? 75%...?
The Romans still had some minor forces at Rome itself, plus their army in Spain under the Scipio brothers, and small forces in other areas (Sicily?) plus the 10,000 or so survivors at Cannae itself rallied by the younger Scipio and other officers.
If we take Goldsworthy's numbers of 45,000+ dead and 18,000 captured what total does that loss represent?
Just wondering.
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Narukami
Re: On This Day... - Narukami - 08-02-2010
Speaking of Cannae ...
John Stewart speaks with the author of "Ghosts Of Cannae - Hannibal And The Darkest Hour Of The Roman Republic"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/2 ... 63650.html
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Narukami
Re: On This Day... - Ron Andrea - 08-02-2010
Good link.
Re: On This Day... - Maximinus243 - 08-03-2010
Quote:Good link.
Although that books and discussion seems like it is just repeating facts and discussions that has already been discussed for a long time. It does not seem like it introduce anything new to our understanding of Cannae.
Re: Speaking of Cannae... - Ron Andrea - 08-03-2010
No, but it's nice to see serious topics getting into the popular media, even if the host did his best to act the fool.
Re: Speaking of Cannae... - Narukami - 08-03-2010
Indeed so.
I agree that it seems there is little "new" in this book, but that the author made it onto The Daily Show is, in and of itself, pretty sweet.
As we have said many times before when discussing the latest ancient film from Hollywood, all publicity is good.
As for John Stewart playing the fool -- well, that is his job after all. Sometime he can be quite funny and on other days ...
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Narukami
Re: Speaking of Cannae... - Maximinus243 - 08-03-2010
Quote:No, but it's nice to see serious topics getting into the popular media, even if the host did his best to act the fool.
I thought that the battle of Cannae is very well known in the US?
Re: Speaking of Cannae... - Narukami - 08-03-2010
I would dare say the Battle of Hoth or the Battle of Endor are better know in the US than is the Battle of Cannae.
In fact, there are many in he US who still believe that the Battle Of The Bulge was fought between their parents and their diets.
:oops:
Narukami
Re: Speaking of Cannae... - Astiryu1 - 08-03-2010
Quote:I thought that the battle of Cannae is very well known in the US?
I never learned about Cannae in school and most people (at least my age;which is 27) don't like to read anymore. When I first heard about Elephants crossing the Alps I had to learn more about it. :lol: Keep in mind I haven't been to College so it may be different there.
Re: Speaking of Cannae... - Ron Andrea - 08-03-2010
Quote:I would dare say the Battle of Hoth or the Battle of Endor are better know in the US than is the Battle of Cannae.
Totally true. (Hence my reference in another thread to the fictional Thrawn.)
Re: Speaking of Cannae... - Astiryu1 - 08-03-2010
Sad to ask but "Are there any movies dealing with Cannae?" That is the best way to get stuff out into the Mainstream. :roll:
Thermopylae was something I learned about in High School but most kids seemed disinterested until "300" came out. Then they liked it.
Re: Speaking of Cannae... - Ron Andrea - 08-03-2010
Not that I know of, but then we'd start the whole argument about whether the public is better off knowing nothing of Roman history than knowing all the wrong stuff Hollywood foists on them.
Re: Speaking of Cannae... - M. Demetrius - 08-03-2010
Quote:whether the public is better off knowing nothing of Roman history than knowing all the wrong stuffI can answer that, Ron: "Yes, they are, most likely, sometimes." There. Argument ended. :wink: :lol:
Re: Speaking of Cannae... - Astiryu1 - 08-03-2010
I thought I watched a documentary of Cannae. IIRC it was Decisive "Battles of the Ancient World Vol.III" they use Rome :Total War for visual effects.
Re: Speaking of Cannae... - Dithrambus - 08-04-2010
Quote:Sad to ask but "Are there any movies dealing with Cannae?" That is the best way to get stuff out into the Mainstream. :roll:
Thermopylae was something I learned about in High School but most kids seemed disinterested until "300" came out. Then they liked it.
One of, heck the only thing positive about the film: 300 is the fact that many people have been attracted to Greek history due to their exposure to this film, of course there are many more that are under the impression that the Spartans were some sort of mythical 'Superheroes' and that the Persian Immortals were vile monsters, so I guess that sword cuts both ways. (sorry, I did not mean to start the aforementioned argument :lol: )