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Notitia map - sonic - 04-09-2008

Hi everyone,

I need your help, please.

In the past I have seen a map of the Roman Empire with all of the 'comitatenses'/'mobile field army' units placed in their locations as given in the Notitia Dignitatum. Trouble is, I need it and can't remember where I saw it! It might be in A.H.M. Jones (1964), but I can't be sure.

Anyone have any ideas? :?

Thanks.


Late Roman Army map - D B Campbell - 04-09-2008

A.H.M. Jones, The Later Roman Empire, 284-602, Map IV: The Order of Battle of the Roman Army (c. 408 in the East c. 423 in the West).

Sorry -- my scanner's on the blink. Cry


Re: Late Roman Army map - sonic - 04-09-2008

Quote:A.H.M. Jones, The Later Roman Empire, 284-602, Map IV: The Order of Battle of the Roman Army (c. 408 in the East c. 423 in the West).

Sorry -- my scanner's on the blink. Cry

Thanks for trying anyway: much appreciated!! Smile


Re: Notitia map - D B Campbell - 04-10-2008

"The Order of Battle of the Roman Army (c. 408 in the East c. 423 in the West)."

Not the most informative map I've ever seen -- not helped by the poor quality of scan! Sad

The key at bottom left (which is a bit smudged) says:

Inside a box
V = vexillatio palatina
[size=75:378w3lgq]V[/size] = vexillatio comitatensis
L = legio palatina
A = auxilium palatinum
[size=75:378w3lgq]L[/size] = legio comitatensis
p = legio pseudo-comitatensis

Outside a box
L = legio / a = ala
c = cohors / A = auxilium
┴ = classis
v = (vexillatio) equitum
Λ = cuneus equitum
m = milites / n = numerus
G = gens


Re: Notitia map - sonic - 04-10-2008

Thanks a lot for that. Despite it's 'poor quality', it's still the only map I've ever seen of its type. Beggars can't be choosers!!

Thanks again


Re: Notitia map - Ioannes_Ahenobarbus - 04-12-2008

I'll second that 'thanks' right here!


Re: Notitia map - D B Campbell - 04-12-2008

Welcome! Big Grin


Re: Notitia map - Theodosius the Great - 04-22-2008

Hi Sonic,

Quote:Despite it's 'poor quality', it's still the only map I've ever seen of its type. Beggars can't be choosers!!
There is another map although it only shows the Eastern Empire in AD 395. It's from Warren Treadgold's 'A History of the Byzantine State and Society' (a must read, btw).
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~Theo


Re: Notitia map - sonic - 04-22-2008

Quote:Hi Sonic,

sonic:3gbwmy2d Wrote:Despite it's 'poor quality', it's still the only map I've ever seen of its type. Beggars can't be choosers!!
There is another map although it only shows the Eastern Empire in AD 395. It's from Warren Treadgold's 'A History of the Byzantine State and Society' (a must read, btw).

~Theo

Brilliant! Thanks a lot for that. 8)


Re: Notitia map - Ioannes_Ahenobarbus - 04-22-2008

Speaking of Treadgold, his "Byzantium and Its Army" has a few maps of the same period (come to think of it, they might be the same maps).

"The Byzantine Wars" and "Warfare, State and Society in the Byzantine World" both by John Haldon have a couple great maps of the 6th century.


Re: Notitia map - Robert Vermaat - 04-22-2008

Hoffmann has a whole series of maps but these are a bit too large to scan...