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Re: websites ect for buying bone? - Gaius Julius Caesar - 08-05-2007
Man of many talents!
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - Marcus Mummius - 08-07-2007
Here's a gladius handle made in imitation ivory by David Hare:
![[Image: swordhandle.jpg]](http://www.ivoryalternative.com/media/gallery/swordhandle.jpg)
http://www.ivoryalternative.com/
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - brennivs - tony drake - 08-08-2007
Very nice Marcvs good site as well thanks for that one
Regards Brennivs
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - Gaius Julius Caesar - 08-08-2007
Is there a pommel nut on the end of that? I looks great!
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - Marcus Mummius - 08-08-2007
Quote:Is there a pommel nut on the end of that? I looks great!
It does look good indeed. the only problem I see with this material is that it won't age and get a patina the same way as real ivory would...
I can see a pommel nut or at least a bit of tang portruding from the pommel.
Vale,
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - tlclark - 08-09-2007
Anybody every use polymer clay as an ivory substitute?
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - Tarbicus - 08-09-2007
Quote:Anybody every use polymer clay as an ivory substitute?I've posted links to instructions on how to do it before (faux ivory). I've got the Fymo ready and waiting, it's just a matter of finding the time. You need white, beige, and transparent. Roll ultra-thin flat sheets of each sandwiching layers together, each layer being the different types in a repeating order. I think it can be rolled together as well.
Anyway, cut the basic shape, bung it in the oven. Afterwards, you can sand it, drill it, polish it, patinate it. Looks like wonderful stuff, and no need to kill or dig up any mammals.
You can also mimic bone, IIRC by leaving out the transparent layer... I think. Plenty of tutorials on the web.
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - Gaius Julius Caesar - 08-09-2007
Thanks Jef, I can't make it out on my computer at work!
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - tlclark - 08-10-2007
Quote:tlclark:6ialyrng Wrote:Anybody every use polymer clay as an ivory substitute?I've posted links to instructions on how to do it before (faux ivory). I've got the Fymo ready and waiting, it's just a matter of finding the time. You need white, beige, and transparent. Roll ultra-thin flat sheets of each sandwiching layers together, each layer being the different types in a repeating order. I think it can be rolled together as well.
Anyway, cut the basic shape, bung it in the oven. Afterwards, you can sand it, drill it, polish it, patinate it. Looks like wonderful stuff, and no need to kill or dig up any mammals.
You can also mimic bone, IIRC by leaving out the transparent layer... I think. Plenty of tutorials on the web.
Thanks!
How's it hold up?
Sculpey III is really kind of soft. Fimo is very hard. is there any difference?
Anybody know?
I would really love to do an ornate polymer clay one.
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - Crispvs - 08-16-2007
"every time I slaughter a cow, I have plenty of bones....
but only certain ones are good for sword grips. "
For grips only two bones on the entire cow are suitable. These are the cannon bones with the round section. The cannon bones of the front and rear legs differ in section. The bones with the 'D' shaped section (I think these are from the front feet) are not suitable because the internal aperture is too large. Also, the feet need to be quite small - I would say the bone for a grip should come from a calf rather than an adult, based on the experience of dismembering and boiling up numerous cows' feet in order to find a bone with a suitable cross section.
If you are going to do a handle which is entirely bone you will need to use three different bones. To make a handle such as the one in Dorchester (in the last link Tarbicus posted up), you need to make the grip from a calf's rear(?) cannon bone, the 'drums' of the guard and pommel from the femur of a cow (for the correct cross section) and the circular caps in the top and botton of both the pommel and the guard need to be made from the central areas of the flat sides of shank bones, which are the only bones on a cow which are both flat enough and thick enough to make these pieces from. If you plan to make a handle with a straight guard such as the one pictured on one of the gladius reproductions currently on Erik Koenig's site (link below), you need to use an adult cannon bone from the same legs as for the grip.
http://www.replik-online.de/de/index2.html
Erik has told me that he had found it difficult to guarantee the supply of bones from animals which had been reared in the open air through the butchers he normally used for his supplies, so now he imports cow bones from Argentina, where he can be sure that the cows roam free in the countryside and develop strong bones as a result.
I will post up a picture of my bone sword handle in the next day or two.
Crispvs
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - Crispvs - 08-17-2007
Here, as promised, is my bone sword handle. Sorry about the lack of clarity - the photos were taken with a mobile phone.
![[Image: Handle2.jpg]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b73/Crispvs/Handle2.jpg)
![[Image: handle3.jpg]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b73/Crispvs/handle3.jpg)
Crispvs
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - Peroni - 08-17-2007
Very Nice Frater! Are we to be seeing this on the field soon?
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 08-17-2007
Nice work, Crispus!
Looks familiar to me...
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - Crispvs - 08-17-2007
Yes Cezar,
Credit where credit is due. Although I have been working bone for around fifteen years now, it did not occur to me to make a bone handle for my sword until I saw the one you had done.
Peronis,
I am somewhat impatient to get it onto the field as soon as I can, if only to allow myself to stop using the inaccurate piece of **** penury has forced me to carry for the last nine seasons. However, I need to finish the scabbard first, which will mean it will be a few weeks more before anyone sees me carrying it.
Crispvs
Re: websites ect for buying bone? - brennivs - tony drake - 08-20-2007
Lovely piece of work Crispvs.WOW since you last showed me
D Regards Brennivs