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Re: Show your roman belts? - Gaius Julius Caesar - 12-26-2011
Yes that is very nice work indeed!
Re: Show your roman belts? - Sutoris - 12-26-2011
Still practicing on the plates.
I need to find a way to keep areas free from tin.
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Re: Show your roman belts? - PhilusEstilius - 12-27-2011
The areas you need to keep free from tinning can be covered in paint, I have various pieces I make silvered and have been told that this method will indeed work.
Re: Show your roman belts? - Sutoris - 12-28-2011
Thanks for the tip Brian
Re: Show your roman belts? - 66kbm - 03-10-2012
Hello all
Heres my latest belt(the belt refered to in the thread.."holding up a cingulum with segmentata") Buckle,plates and dagger frogs courtesy of Holger Ratsdorf, all apron work courtesy of Markus Neidhardt,leather courtesy of The Identity Store..special order, and finally stitching courtesy of Tim Edwards,a very special friend.
Re: Show your roman belts? - Gaius Julius Caesar - 03-10-2012
Ahhhh, the penny Drops! :roll:
Nice belt Kevin, and nice to meet you last weekend!
Re: Show your roman belts? - 66kbm - 03-10-2012
Was a pleasure.....next stop...Silchester
kevin
Re: Show your roman belts? - ANTONIVS MAGNVS - 03-11-2012
Nice belts everyone. Rado I really love yours, amazing!
Here's my first attempt at a belt. I still need to attach the pugio frogs. I scavenged the embossed plates from a cheap Indian belt and made the plain plates from sheet brass, attached with copper rivets to a tandy belt blank. The buckle is one from my ancient collection while I await Matt Lukes piece in the mail. Haven't decided if I'll add an Apron yet. Yes the Deepeeka pugio is on the "Things to Avoid" list but I bought it before I knew what I was doing LOL.
EDIT: Well, since posting I ended up attaching the pugio holders. Here's a pic with the belt on the mannequin. I wish I had used a smaller head rivet...I'll make the next one better.
Re: Show your roman belts? - Magnus - 03-12-2012
Looks good Jay. We'll have to get some neatsfoot oil on that belt. If you decide to put an apron on, I have a great source for apron studs...and making the terminal ends are very easy.
Also, I can get you domed head rivets in copper as well.
Re: Show your roman belts? - Crispvs - 03-12-2012
Well done on your first belt Jay. I look forward to seeing how it develops.
If I were you though, even before you attach the buckle from Matt Lukes, get rid of the small straps attached the 'pugio'. You would be far better off doing without a pugio than having that piece of tat on your belt (not all Roman soldiers wore pugios in any case and we also know that at least one soldier did without his for a while whilst he used it as security for a loan) so I would advise you to get rid of it. However, whatever you replace it with should not be attached using those small straps. They are a modern convention and there is no evidence that the Romans ever used such a thing. Any re-enactors you see using them are copying other people rather than looking at the evidence. All Roman depictions of soldiers wearing pugios on their belts show the upper suspension rings level with and often touching the frog buttons. They were probably tightly attached with leather thonging. The lower suspension rings were unused.
Crispvs
Re: Show your roman belts? - ANTONIVS MAGNVS - 03-12-2012
Thanks guys.
Crispvs I've seen you write that before about the pugio. I can't find a picture of what you mean and all the pictures I've seen have it suspended the way I've done it. Could I request a picture please? I just used some scrap leather so no big deal to take it off.
Thanks!
Re: Show your roman belts? - Crispvs - 03-12-2012
Here are three examples. You can find plenty more on the imagebase. The important thing is to look not at what you see other people doing or what you see in reconstruction illustrations but at what the original evidence shows.
http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,142/Itemid,94/
http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,15/Itemid,94/
http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/option,com_imagebase/task,view/cid,7/Itemid,94/
Crispvs
Re: Show your roman belts? - ANTONIVS MAGNVS - 03-12-2012
Excellent! Thanks Crispvs. Still trying to navigate around the site with all the missing pictures.
I'll also drag up this old thread as it proved very insightful:
http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat.html?func=view&catid=20&id=223638
Re: Show your roman belts? - Magnus - 03-12-2012
Jay, that pugio is ok for now until you get a replacement. If you are.able to pop buy Saturday I can show you the way Crispvs attaches his pugio. Its how we do it and it is super easy.
Crispvs....can you take a look at the Soul of the Warrior website and let me know via pm which pugio you recommend?
Re: Show your roman belts? - Cavok - 03-12-2012
Any chance of a piccie of Crispus's Pugio and its attachment method?
:grin: