11-23-2005, 12:01 AM
11-23-2005, 12:16 AM
Good Lord!!!!
![[Image: D4617487r.jpg]](http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/LotFinderImages/D46174/D4617487r.jpg)
That's one great example of a Berkasovo II! The bowl appears to be constructed of two halves, not four as you see in the 'Burgh Castle'/Concesti class.
Very large cheek- and neckplates, btw, almost like a Niederbieber.No sign of earholes, and no sign of the protective guards on top of the cheekplates (though these could have been lost).
The attachment of the cheekplates to the rim reminds me of the Der el medineh helmet.
Very elegant nasal, too.
That's one great example of a Berkasovo II! The bowl appears to be constructed of two halves, not four as you see in the 'Burgh Castle'/Concesti class.
Very large cheek- and neckplates, btw, almost like a Niederbieber.No sign of earholes, and no sign of the protective guards on top of the cheekplates (though these could have been lost).
The attachment of the cheekplates to the rim reminds me of the Der el medineh helmet.
Very elegant nasal, too.
11-23-2005, 12:30 AM
11-23-2005, 12:45 AM
11-23-2005, 07:44 AM
11-23-2005, 09:26 AM
A pity to have only one pic and not a very good one! 
The protective bands on top of the cheek-pieces were intended to protect the gap left between the basal ring and cheek-pieces by the use of internal hinges. In this case, like in the Deir el Medina helmet, the hinges are external, so, no gap, no bands.
The Deir el Medina helmet has no border holes around the edges of cheeks and neck-guard too, but it possesses them along the lower border of basal ring.
It has also internal rings rivetted to the inner side of the cheek-pieces for the chinstraps. Probaly that would be the case here, better than a pin joining both cheek-pieces.
The form of the 'eyebrows' is very interesting too. Fourth century 'eyebrows' don't have usually that horizontal extension at their ends, but those of the Deir el Medina helmet have it.
I would bet that the neck-guard is joined to the bowl by means of a hinge too.
Probably, late Third century, like Cesar has pointed out.
About the provenance, I wouldn't bet my life for it but, with that degree of preservation, there are high possibilities of it being Egypt. Diocletian crushed an important revolution there... 8)
Aitor
The protective bands on top of the cheek-pieces were intended to protect the gap left between the basal ring and cheek-pieces by the use of internal hinges. In this case, like in the Deir el Medina helmet, the hinges are external, so, no gap, no bands.
The Deir el Medina helmet has no border holes around the edges of cheeks and neck-guard too, but it possesses them along the lower border of basal ring.
It has also internal rings rivetted to the inner side of the cheek-pieces for the chinstraps. Probaly that would be the case here, better than a pin joining both cheek-pieces.
The form of the 'eyebrows' is very interesting too. Fourth century 'eyebrows' don't have usually that horizontal extension at their ends, but those of the Deir el Medina helmet have it.
I would bet that the neck-guard is joined to the bowl by means of a hinge too.
Probably, late Third century, like Cesar has pointed out.
About the provenance, I wouldn't bet my life for it but, with that degree of preservation, there are high possibilities of it being Egypt. Diocletian crushed an important revolution there... 8)
Aitor
11-23-2005, 09:49 AM
Included in the same sale:
![[Image: D4617486r.jpg]](http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/LotFinderImages/D46174/D4617486r.jpg)
Christies face mask
And also some other interesting items:
Bone objects
Republican bust
Etruscan bronze warrior
One for Comerus Gallus Romus
2v2khngc]
[url=http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/search/LOTDETAIL.ASP?sid=&intObjectID=4617323:2v2khngc]Corinthian helmet
Mosaic glass inlay
Egyptian mummy portrait - Roman period
Christies face mask
And also some other interesting items:
Bone objects
Republican bust
Etruscan bronze warrior
One for Comerus Gallus Romus
2v2khngc][url=http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/search/LOTDETAIL.ASP?sid=&intObjectID=4617323:2v2khngc]Corinthian helmet
Mosaic glass inlay
Egyptian mummy portrait - Roman period
11-23-2005, 12:41 PM
To quote Robert - Good Lord!!!!
We may have our earliest found Roman ridge helm here. My guess is 285AD - 300AD also.
Does anyone have any clout with Christies? We need pictures, lots of pictures. I am pretty ignorant on how auction houses work, but if someone popped in, does any one think they would let them photograph the item?
We could pretend they were interested in buying it for Robert.
Andrew
We may have our earliest found Roman ridge helm here. My guess is 285AD - 300AD also.
Does anyone have any clout with Christies? We need pictures, lots of pictures. I am pretty ignorant on how auction houses work, but if someone popped in, does any one think they would let them photograph the item?
We could pretend they were interested in buying it for Robert.
Andrew
11-23-2005, 12:54 PM
11-23-2005, 12:56 PM
11-23-2005, 12:59 PM
Many thanks, Andrew!
Let's see what happens now...
In any case, that helmet clearly deserves to be seriously studied and published before it is again lost of view!
Aitor
Let's see what happens now...
In any case, that helmet clearly deserves to be seriously studied and published before it is again lost of view!
Aitor
11-23-2005, 01:06 PM
11-23-2005, 01:10 PM
11-23-2005, 01:19 PM
11-23-2005, 01:48 PM
If I had some better pics, I might be able to talk my armourer friend into making a copy 
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