Is that a Dromon or whatever they were called?
Awesome model. That is the type of gunship used against Henry the VIIIths fleet, if I'm not mistaken.
Wish I could answer your question as to whether they were called Dromons, as my memory only recognises the name :roll:
One hundred years after the Battle of Lepanto I didn't think galleys were used anymore in warfare.
They were probably confined to the Mediterranean by that time though being used concurrently with
the Galleon.
Thanks for posting the link !
~Theo
galleys were also used in Northern Europe. The Spanish and Dutch used them during the 80-years war (1568-1648). The Swedes and Russian navies also used galleys - the Second naval Battle of Svensksund (1790) was fought with galleys for example!
Quote:Is that a Dromon or whatever they were called?
Dromon was the name of Byzantine galleys, for example those, who defended Constantinople during early medieval times against the Arabs with "Greek Fire" - here I posted a picture of one of these shipse (what looks like two cannons at the ship's bow were actually early "flamethrowers"): <!-- l <a class="postlink-local" href="http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=23076&start=20#p249238">viewtopic.php?f=13&t=23076&start=20#p249238<!-- l
Now the ship in this video had still pretty much the same design like those galleys from the Battle at Lepanto. They were also used for a long time as a punishment for criminals (just not in Ancient times, that's the common misunderstanding people get from the story of "Ben Hur"). Here you have a list of sea battles, which shows that they were still fightung for quite a long time, especially in the Mediterranean Sea, but also, as Jeroen said, in the North East of Europe.
Here you have a video that shows a model of the Venetian Fleet at the Battle of Lepanto:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRMdL9HUeuE
damn, this' awesome
thanx for posting the link
Quote:galleys were also used in Northern Europe. The Spanish and Dutch used them during the 80-years war (1568-1648). The Swedes and Russian navies also used galleys - the Second naval Battle of Svensksund (1790) was fought with galleys for example!
Interesting. I guess the shorter distances involved between those countries still made the galley a viable weapon. Thanks for the information.
Quote:Dromon was the name of Byzantine galleys, for example those, who defended Constantinople during early medieval times against the Arabs with "Greek Fire" - here I posted a picture of one of these shipse (what looks like two cannons at the ship's bow were actually early "flamethrowers"): viewtopic.php?f=13&t=23076&start=20#p249238
If you view this thread and scroll all the way down you'll see a modern painting of a dromon in action.
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Quote:Here you have a video that shows a model of the Venetian Fleet at the Battle of Lepanto:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRMdL9HUeuE
Wow ! I wonder what the scale of the ship is. In Ben-Hur the models they used were about 4 feet long. This one doesn't look much smaller but it's hard to gauge the size from the video. Thanks !
(BTW, I myself just bought a Roman imperial galley measuring 33 inches long and fully assembled.)
~Theo
The guy, who made this model, posted several videos of his ship and in one he states that it's 3,85 m long, that would be more than 12 feet.
Quote:Interesting. I guess the shorter distances involved between those countries still made the galley a viable weapon. Thanks for the information.
In the northern countries the galleys were usually used for patrolling rivers and lakes. During the Dutch revolution (1568-1648) the Spanish and Dutch naval forces clashed several times on lakes with galleys. When the Dutch started their naval building of man-of-wars the Spanish galleys quickly vanished from the Dutch frontier.
Even during the US revolution galleys were used.