10-27-2007, 08:35 PM
Ehem.
Well, what I tried to say: 2007 there were altogether about 30 Germanics and maybe 80 Romans. Three times that means, as I understand the Kalkriese Mueseum, they can - perhaps - imagine 150 Germanics and 300 Romans. I know groups that say, they have there engagement already fixed, so far it all goes some way.
The concurrence, the different groups in negotiation, I spoke about is notabout the subject of participation at all, yet about who "rules" the big battle, who prepares a common show. That is the point where I see trouble, because there will be a battle reenactment anyway. The public asks for it, we do, so it will come. But the museum seems to think they make contracts with this group and that group and everyone makes his own show, they do not imagine how nice it could be, if only they played with open cards, they just put the names of the groups on their homepage or make up an email-distributor.
Then I would be absolutely content, we could contact each other and make arrangements for a nice battle reenactment. But the way it is, I will be informed by the museum in May 2009 that I am invited (or not ), I will know some other guys by rumour, and at the event itself there will be a very spontaneous "who of you can take part at the battle"-hustle. I think this very late to tell people they need blunt weapons, or wood weapons, or leather-tipped spears, if they want to take part in the main hour.
That's all. Years ago I dreamt of a good show. Now I know that there will be the same - nice - procedure as every year, maybe bigger, but no cooperative preparation. C'est tout. It might be so easy to send an email around telling everybody that there are some fighting rules, no headshots thingy etc, some battle weapon standards, thus everbody knows what is considered safe and feasible.
Sorry if I spoke so unclear! 2007 there were several groups, not only three or four - I remember the Romans from Bitburg, the Leg. I. Italica, the Vex. Leg. XI c.p.f, the Timetrotters,some roman merchants and all, and officially it was at least 6 Germanic groups - and 2009 there will be most probably more.
The pan-Germanic try to form a union called Comitatus, well, we do not try to make up one big group, but to communicate some standards among each other, like safe battle weapons and how to fight Romans in a way that makes them want to play with us again. But it is not ONE group, and never will be. Were quite different, you know.
Finally, 2009 may be a nice event, and a big one, too. It is my personal problem that I have dreamt of a great show and was willing to take my share in the preparations. You do not have to cry with me nor comfort my grief :wink: The date is fixed, if you are interested, then just write a letter to the Kalkriese Museum, tell what you do and what you need. Same procedure as every year, right. If the finally send you an answer and invite you, do me one little favour: please, bring wooden gladii and some substitutes for iron pila, may be we play together.
Robert is surely right that late Romans don't fit in the year 09 reenactment, but I am sure that the Kalkriese organizers do not care about 1st. or 2nd. century. Hamata and segmentata will both be welcome, I'm sure. A seggy was found at Kalkriese, a tleast. But 3rd, 4th. or later of course do not fit in the picture. I am a man of early 5th., actually, and had to re-dress for the Varus thing, too. Sword, shield, clothes.
Cheers,
roumorspreading Ulfwin
Well, what I tried to say: 2007 there were altogether about 30 Germanics and maybe 80 Romans. Three times that means, as I understand the Kalkriese Mueseum, they can - perhaps - imagine 150 Germanics and 300 Romans. I know groups that say, they have there engagement already fixed, so far it all goes some way.
The concurrence, the different groups in negotiation, I spoke about is notabout the subject of participation at all, yet about who "rules" the big battle, who prepares a common show. That is the point where I see trouble, because there will be a battle reenactment anyway. The public asks for it, we do, so it will come. But the museum seems to think they make contracts with this group and that group and everyone makes his own show, they do not imagine how nice it could be, if only they played with open cards, they just put the names of the groups on their homepage or make up an email-distributor.
Then I would be absolutely content, we could contact each other and make arrangements for a nice battle reenactment. But the way it is, I will be informed by the museum in May 2009 that I am invited (or not ), I will know some other guys by rumour, and at the event itself there will be a very spontaneous "who of you can take part at the battle"-hustle. I think this very late to tell people they need blunt weapons, or wood weapons, or leather-tipped spears, if they want to take part in the main hour.
That's all. Years ago I dreamt of a good show. Now I know that there will be the same - nice - procedure as every year, maybe bigger, but no cooperative preparation. C'est tout. It might be so easy to send an email around telling everybody that there are some fighting rules, no headshots thingy etc, some battle weapon standards, thus everbody knows what is considered safe and feasible.
Sorry if I spoke so unclear! 2007 there were several groups, not only three or four - I remember the Romans from Bitburg, the Leg. I. Italica, the Vex. Leg. XI c.p.f, the Timetrotters,some roman merchants and all, and officially it was at least 6 Germanic groups - and 2009 there will be most probably more.
The pan-Germanic try to form a union called Comitatus, well, we do not try to make up one big group, but to communicate some standards among each other, like safe battle weapons and how to fight Romans in a way that makes them want to play with us again. But it is not ONE group, and never will be. Were quite different, you know.
Finally, 2009 may be a nice event, and a big one, too. It is my personal problem that I have dreamt of a great show and was willing to take my share in the preparations. You do not have to cry with me nor comfort my grief :wink: The date is fixed, if you are interested, then just write a letter to the Kalkriese Museum, tell what you do and what you need. Same procedure as every year, right. If the finally send you an answer and invite you, do me one little favour: please, bring wooden gladii and some substitutes for iron pila, may be we play together.
Robert is surely right that late Romans don't fit in the year 09 reenactment, but I am sure that the Kalkriese organizers do not care about 1st. or 2nd. century. Hamata and segmentata will both be welcome, I'm sure. A seggy was found at Kalkriese, a tleast. But 3rd, 4th. or later of course do not fit in the picture. I am a man of early 5th., actually, and had to re-dress for the Varus thing, too. Sword, shield, clothes.
Cheers,
roumorspreading Ulfwin
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