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5th C. Western Roman Kits Persons Timeline Etc. (24 May 09)
#31
Great job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!
Laud for you!!!! :wink:
Carme
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#32
This paint represents Galla Placidia and her sons:

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Often is represented to the figure of the right as the empress, takes a clothes and more elegant jewels, the top figure there represents Honoria, the daughter. But yesterday I spoke with faventianus that Honoria's figure would have to represent a figure lower than that of the empress, being Galla Placidia the top figure and the children represented in the low part. That you think?
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#33
Yes.
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Ivan Perelló
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#34
Quote: Galla Placidia the top figure and the children represented in the low part.
I'm not sure. The lower figure wears the decorated robes and jewellery. I'd say it is Placidia below right.
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#35
Are you sure that the portrayed persons even belong to the Imperial family? :?
What is written in Greek around them? Could somebody post a better image, please? 8)

Aitor
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#36
Here's a bigger pic.

Quote:...an incredibly ornate jeweled cross, put together out of various pieces in the seventh century. One of those pieces, just over half-way down the lower arm of the cross, is a medallion from the Roman Empire...
...Jas Elsner briefly discusses the object in the introduction to Imperial Rome and Christian Triumph: The Art of the Roman Empire AD 100-450 (Oxford, 1998). In his caption, he writes (p. 22), ‘Gold-glass medallion, perhaps from Alexandria, dated anywhere between the early third and the mid-fifth centuries AD. This family group of a mother, in a richly embroidered robe and jewels, with her son and daughter, bears the inscription BOUNNERI KERAMI. This may be an artist’s signature or the name of the family represented.’
( http://campusmawrtius.blogspot.com/2006 ... lia-4.html )

It's in the Museo della Citta', Brescia.
Dan Diffendale
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#37
Ah! didnt saw that
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#38
Here's a big one, inspired by that medallion:
http://www.bleriot.net/db/bl3web.jpg

From a nice article in French: http://www.bleriot.net/db/
Or this one:
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#39
Many thanks to Dan and Robert! Big Grin
Not Gala Placidia then, I'm afraid... :wink:

Aitor
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#40
Robert wrote:


Quote:it's not easy over here either to find good patterns!

That's because you need to get off the net and spend more time in a library or in a Museum Robert :wink: . Not far from you in Antwerp is one of the best private collections of Coptic textiles in the world. Sadly I have not seen it myself but have it on good authority that there is some pretty amazing things in there. It is possible to book appointments for a private viewing.


Failing that look out for exhibitions and their catalogues like the recent one from Manchester. I advised people especially the late Romans amongst RAT members to get there, as there were a number of complete examples of clothes including cloaks, tunics and hats. Not sure whether anyone else from RAT went which is a bit of a sad reflection I think.

Graham.
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#41
Quote:That's because you need to get off the net and spend more time in a library or in a Museum Robert :wink:

Nah, I meant in shops. We were talking about trims ..
Well, now that you mention it, I DO need a good image of a clavus...
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#42
Which kind of clavus, Robert? Purple and white, polychrome? Geommetrycal, figural? An early one, I guess but, let's say from IV to VIth, as 'experts' don't agree about exact dates. Anyway, I tend to think that IVth century patches were mainly bichrome and not figural, but I'm not an expert, after all... :wink:
You should be patient, in any case, as I would have to scan the pics from books! Sad

Graham,
The Manchester exhibition was a little too far away from here to assist. In any case, you mention a catalogue. Could you give us more details on it, please? 8)

Aitor
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#43
Restitvtvs ... found Honorius
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#44
Hello Aitor

The Exhibition was at the Whitworth Art Gallery University of Manchester. If you look at their website you will find contact details etc...

The Exhibition was called Clothing Culture Dress in Egypt in the First Millennium AD by Frances Pritchard. Catalogues should still be available around £25 and well worth getting.

Graham.
"Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream" Edgar Allan Poe.

"Every brush-stroke is torn from my body" The Rebel, Tony Hancock.

"..I sweated in that damn dirty armor....TWENTY YEARS!', Charlton Heston, The Warlord.
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#45
Many thanks, Graham, I'll have a look at the site! 8)

Aitor
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