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Scythian mummy found in Mongolia - dates back 2,500 years
#31
Hi Jools,

Quote: Apologies for coming in late to this discussion....
Not at all. Big Grin
Quote: The Koryak were nomadic herders of reindeer. They had a few horses, or rather ponies but on the whole must have fought on foot.
Or on dog sleds as you said earlier. Did they maybe use reindeer to pull the sleds?
Quote: With reference to the men wearing the armour, they are not actually 'warriors' but two of the expeditions guides who put on the stuff for a photo so your guess is as good as mine as to whether they have strapped the shields to their backs by accident or told 'thats how you carry them'.
As always, we're being 'duped' again to believe that the daring expedition managed to find 'real ancient-style warriors'! Instead, it's a rigged scene.
This reminds me of that scene at Dura Europos, with the (seemingly ill-fitting) horse armour draped across the modern Arab horse.. Cry
On the other hand, I recall pictures of Tibetan lamellar armour - 19th Century?
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#32
Vorty, you may have seen them here:

www.skidmore.edu/academics/asianstudies/TibetanPhotos/MonlamArmy.html
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#33
Quote:Or on dog sleds as you said earlier. Did they maybe use reindeer to pull the sleds?

Hi Robert, always nice to feel welcome :wink:

No not for war, reindeer were used as draft animals and I have seen a photo of an Evenk woman riding a reindeer and carrying a parma (spear)

The only big horse users in Siberia were the Tuvans from the southern Altai regions.
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#34
Very interesting Kuura, thanks

BTW: do you have Scythian tattooes too in your body?

i know someone who does Smile

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Its a Greko-reenactor from australia :lol:
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Quote:Very interesting Kuura, thanks

BTW: do you have Scythian tattooes too in your body?

i know someone who does Smile

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Its a Greko-reenactor from australia :lol:

Yes I do.

I've got the Ram or mountain goat (same as the one on your Australian friend) on my left breast and the psuedo horse on my left shoulder blade. The rest of the designs on my arm are Finnish Runic symbols, filled in with Scythian style tendrils etc. Although my lower am has an Iroquois Indian linear design, similar to some Evenk and Copper Inuit designs.
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#36
Wow! thanks Kuura, if it not was for my religion, I would tattooed myselve too Smile ....

now you both need to make sure, your bodies are well preserved to posterity for a thousand year ahead :lol:
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#37
Do you reckon being embalmed in copious amounts of red wine would help Big Grin lol:
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#38
Quote:I've got the Ram or mountain goat (same as the one on your Australian friend) on my left breast and the psuedo horse on my left shoulder blade. The rest of the designs on my arm are Finnish Runic symbols, filled in with Scythian style tendrils etc. Although my lower am has an Iroquois Indian linear design, similar to some Evenk and Copper Inuit designs.

I've got a Scythian stag tattoo on my right shoulder. I got it about 13 years ago and it still gets commented on because it looks different to all those bog-standard 'Celtic' ones that so many other people have.
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kuura:bjuhsuqm Wrote:I've got the Ram or mountain goat (same as the one on your Australian friend) on my left breast and the psuedo horse on my left shoulder blade. The rest of the designs on my arm are Finnish Runic symbols, filled in with Scythian style tendrils etc. Although my lower am has an Iroquois Indian linear design, similar to some Evenk and Copper Inuit designs.

I've got a Scythian stag tattoo on my right shoulder. I got it about 13 years ago and it still gets commented on because it looks different to all those bog-standard 'Celtic' ones that so many other people have.

What you mean the bog standard Celtic ones that are actually Saxon :!: :lol:
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#40
Well, it's probably not a Scythian, but they found another 2000-year old body in the Altai mountains.

Article in full here.

[quote]Russian archaeologists have uncovered the 2000-year-old remains of a warrior preserved intact in permafrost in the Altai mountains region, the Rossiiskaya Gazeta daily reported.

The warrior was blond had tattoos on his body. He was wearing a felt coat with sable fur trimmings and was buried in a wooden frame containing drawings of mythological creatures with an icepick beside him, the paper said.

Local archaeologists believe the man was part of the ruling elite of a local nomadic tribe known as the Pazyryk. Numerous other Pazyryk tombs have been found in the area.

“This is definitely a very serious discovery. It’s incredibly lucky that the burial was in permafrost so it was very well preserved,â€
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Just to specify, these finds are probably not 2500 years old. The original Pazyryk finds- including the famously-dubbed "oldest rug in the world" - were originally said to date to 500 BC but a new radiocarbon dating of the rug showed that it, and the other contemporary burials, dated to around 260-250 BC. It seems, however, that few news sources or current books have caught onto this new dating yet.
Ruben

He had with him the selfsame rifle you see with him now, all mounted in german silver and the name that he\'d give it set with silver wire under the checkpiece in latin: Et In Arcadia Ego. Common enough for a man to name his gun. His is the first and only ever I seen with an inscription from the classics. - Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian
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