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Scythian mummy found in Mongolia - dates back 2,500 years
#16
Those are great..!
What museum..?
I would love to see them larger. Can you email them to me..?
Thanks,
Johnny
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#17
Quote:Those are great..!
What museum..?
I would love to see them larger. Can you email them to me..?
Thanks,
Johnny

Can you pm your email Johnny? Smile
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BTW: I see that some Scythian tratidion did passed to Altaic races &
others,
like protecting their back with the shield "A la Scythian".

Could it be an ancient contact with each other? perhaps influence.

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#18
Wow momma! Brilliant stuff!! Confusedhock:
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#19
Comerus,
How do I send you a private message..?
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#21
I found it..!
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#22
Comerus,

That black-and-white photograph, are those two archers Tibetans?
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#23
Quote:Comerus,

That black-and-white photograph, are those two archers Tibetans?

I lost trace of this photo... But I think they are not Tibetan.

In fact they rasemblance the exact armour & wooden back-shield
of the Chuckchi of the far north Siberia of XVII-XVIII AD.

According to one source, the Chuckchi-ian, were the most warlike nation,
their raids terrified the inhabitants of the American and Asian shores of the Behring strait. Also the source notice the interesting shield that is wore similiar in the time of the scythians.

I hope I can find again the source of that picture.
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#24
I think you are right, they are probably Chukchi, I found a picture of one
[Image: chukchiwarrior2.jpg].

I thought they might have been Tibetans because I've seen black-and-white pictures of Tibetans in lamellar armour. But this Chukchi is clearly much more similar.

Remarkable. And they say Arctic peoples don't practise warfare much :roll:
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#25
Wow! that is a beautiful Chukchi armour, I love the fur jacket!


Quote:Remarkable. And they say Arctic peoples don't practise warfare much :roll:

Yes indeed its surpricing! Smile


[size=150:wrflf77j]Eureka Andreas!!![/size]
, the black & white picture warriors are other people, but related to the Chukchi, they are called: Koryaks, they were brave men, when they were outnumbered, they killed their families & set fire their houses, then die fighting, they fought the Cossacks...

more about them can be found here
Koryaks

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the Asiatic Koryak Armor, c. 1900, Museum of Natural History, negative #1543
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Remarks by Philip on the Athenian Leaders:
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#26
I think Tuva is in the borders with Mongolia, all the excavators look Mongolic at the site.


Quote:From N.G. Magazine June 2003: This couple were found from under 12 feet of rock & soil at Tuva/Russia.

Noticed the Boot's metal plate from the male skeleton? Smile


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Remarks by Philip on the Athenian Leaders:
Philip said that the Athenians were like the bust of Hermes: all mouth and dick.
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#27
This Scythian scaled armour & its chalcidian helmet its well preserved.

I'm sure this the helmet entiredly of Copper!

Ahhha it didnt allow it. let use the sucking photobucket.

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Remarks by Philip on the Athenian Leaders:
Philip said that the Athenians were like the bust of Hermes: all mouth and dick.
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#28
I was directed to a link for a video in German......IceMummy :wink:
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#29
Wow arthes that is A few miles from the couple above at Tuva!

But its not much Scythian stuf that that mummy had, obiously not royal.


Here the princes mummy tattooes
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#30
Apologies for coming in late to this discussion....

The Koryak were nomadic herders of reindeer. They had a few horses, or rather ponies but on the whole must have fought on foot.

The two chaps in the picture are indeed wearing what the expedition leader described as suits of 'medieval armour'. This was actually made out out of reindeer antler and a lot of the stuff was even constructed from old mammoth ivory of which Siberia has vast stocks of. With reference to the men wearing the armour, they are not actually 'warriors' but two of the expeditions guides who put on the stuff for a photo so your guess is as good as mine as to whether they have strapped the shields to their backs by accident or told 'thats how you carry them'.
However, carvings dating from the 4th century AD of Toba warriors from southern Siberia so them clearly wearing large, possibly flexible shields strapped to their backs.

The Chukchi from north-eastern Siberia were extremely warlike. In fact the Russians never managed to subdugate them, losing an entire regiment (more likely a company) of Cossacks and artillery to them in the mid eighteenth century. The Chukchi descending on them from the hills in dog sleds which they used in warfare.

Apart from bows, other weapons included spears, harpoons, knives (some made out of copper, others Iron which was in short supply). One peculiar weapon used by the Koryak and others was the Parma. This could come in several forms and was primarily a bear hunting spear with either a long narrow blade or a single edged spear, a bit like a small glaive.
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