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Sagum Mania!
#1
The late roman soldiers in books always look so suave, but I can't get my sagum to hang correctly!

What are the dimensions of your sagum? (plural? sagae?) And is there some magic as to how you should pin it?
Franklin Slaton
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#2
Related to this is my query on brooches.
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#3
My sagum is almost 2m long, and about 2.8m wide. For wearing a sagum properly you have to fold the upper third backwards, then put it over your left shoulder, so that the sagum just does not touch the ground in front of your left foot. Then take it over your right shoulder and fix it with a fibula.
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#5
Here is my effort, copied from Rhineland grave steles. There are unsolved mysteries as to the wearing of the sagum.

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#6
Here is my chlamys:
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After much struggle, I think that the late Roman mantle wasn't a rectangle but an oval folded in two... The will be one of my next experiments... :wink:

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#7
Quote:Here is my chlamys:
After much struggle, I think that the late Roman mantle wasn't a rectangle but an oval folded in two... The will be one of my next experiments... :wink:

Aitor

Thank you! I've been arguing that with friends for months.
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#8
Quote:After much struggle, I think that the late Roman mantle wasn't a rectangle but an oval folded in two... The will be one of my next experiments...
Me too!
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#9
Quote:Here is my chlamys:
I think that the late Roman mantle wasn't a rectangle but an oval folded in two...

Aitor

Or perhaps just a semicircle/half-oval to begin with?
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#10
Anybody got a 5th or 6th C. trapezoidal shaped cloak with tablion?

I am about to cut mine and I was wondering if anyone had any tips.

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#11
Quote:Anybody got a 5th or 6th C. trapezoidal shaped cloak with tablion?

I am about to cut mine and I was wondering if anyone had any tips.

Travis

Looks like Aitor would be your go-to man for this, although I believe he has stated that his is rectangular instead of trapezoidal. Aitor, correct me if I'm wrong?
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#12
Aitor's out of touch until Monday (if all's well he'll be asleep in The Netherlands this evening Big Grin ). I think Aitor has a rectangle. I'll check it for you tomorrow when we'll meet up.
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Quote:Aitor's out of touch until Monday (if all's well he'll be asleep in The Netherlands this evening Big Grin ). I think Aitor has a rectangle. I'll check it for you tomorrow when we'll meet up.

::jealous::
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#14
Quote:Aitor's out of touch until Monday

Does this mean that by Tuesday he'll have realised 'Bohemian Rhapsody' is no longer #1 in the charts, and polyester trousers really do go 'whoomph!' when they catch fire?
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Vortigern Studies:uxn4zh39 Wrote:Aitor's out of touch until Monday
Does this mean that by Tuesday he'll have realised 'Bohemian Rhapsody' is no longer #1 in the charts, and polyester trousers really do go 'whoomph!' when they catch fire?
Not from personal experience I hope... Big Grin
yes, Aitor has a rectangle. His next project will be an oval-shaped one, folded double. Stuff from Cacauis it seems, 6m by 1.5 m...
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