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Hoplite Shield Designs
Buttons is the way to go.Around three "buttons" is ok,but don't expect information on what they looked like. The base that shows them is vague enough,showing some balck dots.
Giannis K. Hoplite
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I believe that Giannis is correct about the 'anti-arrow curtain' being hung from the face of the shield, as he says, sometimes by some sort of bar, but also just from several circular 'buttons'. Both are shown on pottery......

The 'curtain' would certainly not be a problem on the march - it was doubtless rolled up or similar, and anyway, would be carried by the Hoplite's servant !!
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Please find attached a montage of filched images of Arrow Aprons I've collected over the years. Certainly not exhaustive but useful in showing their variety and placement.[attachment=0:1bm66zxk]<!-- ia0 Arrow Aprons.jpg<!-- ia0 [/attachment:1bm66zxk]
Peter Raftos
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Avete,

I hope someone finds this useful especially since so many of the links on this thread are now broken or otherwise dead.
(see attachment)

From Phil Barker (1976)

17a : Spartan shields. Actual color is uncertain but probably red or black. Shield surface was left natural bronze.
17b : Club emblem of Thebes. Again probably black on a natural bronze background.
17c through 17k : Typical patterns from Athens where blazon was apparently left to individual choice. These could be painted on the bronze of the shield, attached to a metal sheet of different color or painted on a painted ground. Favorite shield colors were purple, red, and yellow, followed by green, grey, violet, and navy blue.
17l : Hoplite shield in section together with method of carrying it.
17m : One type of Macedonian shield pattern. The main variation in these was the number of crescents surrounding the central star.
These varied between 4 and 7 in number, 7 being the most common.
It seems likely that the shield surface was left natural bronze and the emblems on it colored, as we hear of Successor units called Silver Shields and White Shields.

~Theo


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Quote:Avete,
17a : Spartan shields. Actual color is uncertain but probably red or black. Shield surface was left natural bronze
Theo
Evidence point to its use after 420 B.C. The red color is likely as being a color for Ares and Spartan martial tradition

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17b : Club emblem of Thebes. Again probably black on a natural bronze background.
Theo
Color interpretation strictly on attic pottery. Red and white or combination of the above cannot be excluded. I might also be encased in a beotian shield if we trust local coinage.

Quote:Avete,
17c through 17k : Typical patterns from Athens where blazon was apparently left to individual choice. These could be painted on the bronze of the shield, attached to a metal sheet of different color or painted on a painted ground. Favorite shield colors were purple, red, and yellow, followed by green, grey, violet, and navy blue.
Theo
Colours were not accidental. 17c might be Kefalenian (under research)
Dolphin was mainly white but backround color denoted city state. White dolphin on red appears in Corinthian aryballoi from 700 B.C.
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17l : Hoplite shield in section together with method of carrying it.
Theo

Quote:Avete,
17m : One type of Macedonian shield pattern. The main variation in these was the number of crescents surrounding the central star.
These varied between 4 and 7 in number, 7 being the most common.
It seems likely that the shield surface was left natural bronze and the emblems on it colored, as we hear of Successor units called Silver Shields and White Shields.
Theo
The cresents appear with the Antigonides in Macedonia and other Hellenistic states had finaces to issue luxurioyw equipment to the elite units.

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Well - Here it is: the Ephesian Aspis.
Gauis Julius Quartus / John Christianson

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Well done! 8)
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Aspis Apis. I love it!
M. Demetrius Abicio
(David Wills)

Saepe veritas est dura.
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Thank you.
And thank you all for the discussion and information.

BTW, I hear that Price Cyrus is getting a small expedition together.
We're marching east from Ephesus.
I'll be waiting at the Magnesian Gate. See you there!
Gauis Julius Quartus / John Christianson

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Monograms on shields.....


http://stefanosskarmintzos.wordpress.com...d-devices/


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I can't see any images form th elast few posters, apart from Theo's and Stefanos!

But, I was wondering if anyone had an image of the eagle monogram someone mentions as a possibility for an Elian Aspis?
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Quote:I can't see any images form th elast few posters, apart from Theo's and Stefanos!
The discussion is over 2 years old, and the images have probably been removed in lost in conversions?
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Gaius Julius Caesar post=322674 Wrote:I can't see any images form th elast few posters, apart from Theo's and Stefanos!
The discussion is over 2 years old, and the images have probably been removed in lost in conversions?

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Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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