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Sarmatian Ring Pommel dagger
#1
I am being a bit of a tease I cannot post my reconstruction until after next weekend Wink  All will be revealed. All I can say is that other than the blades themselves being found, the scabbard I have had to use my best judgement  Huh  but as ever I will converse on the subject Wink
Regards Brennivs  Big Grin
Woe Ye The Vanquished
                     Brennvs 390 BC
When you have all this why do you envy our mud huts
                     Caratacvs
Centvrio Brennivs COH I Dacorivm (Roma Antiqvia)
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#2
Before I show the reconstruction, looking into the scabbards they are finds but all bling mostly from graves with other gold items the only thing is they do not match in styles to ones carved on grave stelae ect and also don't have ring pommels (except for one) I had a good supply of images but cannot find them at the moment  Angry  The grave finds are very nice in the decoration of the plate used for the scabbard. So will post when I return  Smile
Regards Brennivs  Big Grin
Woe Ye The Vanquished
                     Brennvs 390 BC
When you have all this why do you envy our mud huts
                     Caratacvs
Centvrio Brennivs COH I Dacorivm (Roma Antiqvia)
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#3
Now I can post, the reason is it was a surprise. Steve Rogers who is a member of our group keeps bringing presents to us books, helmets ect plus a huge supply of biscuits   Tongue So last year Steve asked me if I could make him a dagger to go with his ring pommel swords so I just robbed him off saying too busy at the moment  Angel I had in mind to make him one so I did  Smile The group presented it to him as a thank you, he was taken a back and said what's this for. So one happy cavalry man here are the photos,
                     
I have used carved images for to do the sheath. I found I could not keep it strapped on my leg so added a belt loop and ring  which works. Result.
Regards Brennivs  Big Grin
Woe Ye The Vanquished
                     Brennvs 390 BC
When you have all this why do you envy our mud huts
                     Caratacvs
Centvrio Brennivs COH I Dacorivm (Roma Antiqvia)
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#4
Nice one!
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#5
Very nice, as always. Out of interest, what is the sheath based on?

Crispvs
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#6
Will get back to you. I have a bad eye infection knocking me out sometimes, blurred vision ect post soon  Angry
Regards Brennivs Big Grin
Woe Ye The Vanquished
                     Brennvs 390 BC
When you have all this why do you envy our mud huts
                     Caratacvs
Centvrio Brennivs COH I Dacorivm (Roma Antiqvia)
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#7
Get well soon!
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#8
Thank you Robert eye has improved but still may be a week before fully healed  Angry Crispvs my sources for the scabbard are mostly from stele from the Bosphorus area and as ever in Greek,  the sites are Russian so just used the pictures as a guide.
                     
I could not find the site I was on which had a good 3 or 4 stele, as you can see show the scabbard looking the same and in a Roman context. Now cams across one that may be in a wood scabbard with metal banding,
   
Again the straps could be attached from the back or other ? There is also a interesting piece of statue that shows the leg of someone in fine dress,
   
The only thing is is seams to have a solid hilt and of a good size. Now the other type found but is beyond the borders from grave finds and very decorative  is this type,
   
As you can see from the scabbard it does not match so that is why I choose the type I made. So I hope this gives you an Idea of my thoughts  Smile As ever always welcome any input and corrections.
Regards Brennivs  Wink ( used this one for the eye )
Woe Ye The Vanquished
                     Brennvs 390 BC
When you have all this why do you envy our mud huts
                     Caratacvs
Centvrio Brennivs COH I Dacorivm (Roma Antiqvia)
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#9
Very interesting. Thanks - I had not seen any of those pieces before.

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#10
Great work - thanks for sharing. The dagger has a lovely look to it.
Francis Hagan

The Barcarii
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#11
Tony,
 
Very nice work. The scabbards usually had four tabs, just like you fashioned. These scabbards first show up at Arzhan, then Pazyryk, next in Kushana and Filippovka, and finally in the Crimea. Mostly they were made of wood, while the elite versions were done in gold or bronze & gold. Leather ones must have existed but would have disappeared in the strata. I think you did an exemplary reconstruction, and I (too) used leather. Wink
Alan J. Campbell

member of Legio III Cyrenaica and the Uncouth Barbarians

Author of:
The Demon's Door Bolt (2011)
Forging the Blade (2012)

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#12
Thank you very much Alan  Smile  I was going to do a wood scabbard but I felt that leather would hold the blade much better when on horseback. Otherwise if the images showed one of the elaborate scabbards I would have liked to do one.
               
The workmanship is stunning.
Regards Brennivs  Big Grin
Woe Ye The Vanquished
                     Brennvs 390 BC
When you have all this why do you envy our mud huts
                     Caratacvs
Centvrio Brennivs COH I Dacorivm (Roma Antiqvia)
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