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They've struck gold at Kalkriese...again,... but ...
#1
....not with the tourists this time. Rolleyes
http://www.gn-online.de/nachrichten/roem...57015.html
...interesting coinage.
To bring you up to 2016 Standard you may also takle notice of this  .....
http://www.gn-online.de/nachrichten/neue...55278.html
...basically: The site is still larger than previously thought extending northward into moory soil ....
For now

Simplex

...it's da pics, ya know Wink
Siggi K.
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#2
As the soil gets closer to the moor I'd imagine the likelyhood for armor and weapons finds will increase...
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#3
I saw this elsewhere, but couldn't read it in German.

Care to do some interpreting, Siggi, please?

Danke.
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Eagles in the Storm released in UK on March 23, 2017.
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#4
O.K. I'll try -- but after an exhausting day at work I cannot guarantee a thing ...
 
As to the first link:
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Roman gold coinage spotted at Kalkriese
(subpic):
Goldcoins of the Gaivs/Lvcivs-type  as shown at the Museum Park at Bramsche-Kalkriese.
 
Where had the legendary "Hermanns_Schlacht" [German for "clades variana") been staged?
Traces recently spotted at Kalkriese confirm the Thesis that a roman army had gone down completely in the times of emperor Augustus.
 
Bramsche. In the course of excavations at Kalkriese near Osnabrück, archeologists found 8 roman goldcoins from the times of emperor Augustus. Experts do appraise this as prove for Kalkriese to be a possible Location of the legendary clades variana. This find is extraordinary, says chief excavator Dr.Salvatore Ortisi from Osnabrück University.Finds of roman goldcoins are extremely rare.
 
 This sensational find confirmed that the battlefield under research at Kalkriese has to be dated to the times of emperor Augustus (63 BC-14AD), Ortisi said. At this historical battle of Germanics against the Romans the troops of roman commander-in-chief (pvblivs qvinctilivs) Varus sufferd a bloody defeat. The germanics have been led by the cheruscan noble Herrman, who is remembered by a monument near Detmold/Lippe.
 
The coins had been struck around 0 AD at Lugdunum(Lyon ,F) and represent a year's pay for an ordinary soldier.
It's most likely that they all were contained in one purse that someone tried to hide while in utmost danger.
 
(subpic)
 
> repeat first line above after "Bramsche"
 
On the frontside the coins show the head of emperor Augustus- On the backsides, the imperial Princes Gaivs and Lvcivs Caesar have been depicted. Between those 2 shields, lances and croziers (litvi)are shown- an allusion to the fact, that both had been designated as successors to Augustus. The imprintments of all coins are alike, save for one, where Gaivs and Lucivs carry lances and litui shown  mirrored.
 
This year the excavations are staged north of the main battle area. According to Ortisi new finds point towards the fact that the battle area is larger than previously thought. The known extension of the battleground was 6 ha.
 
The excavators presume that there may be traces of the battle as far off as up to 4 km.
According to Ortist the finding spot had been a swampy down 2000 years ago. Explaining the find could be retreating moves of roman soldiers in this place. Near this place finds of other roman coins and remains of military equipment have also been made. So in the future other interesting finds are to be expected.
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As to the 2nd link:
 
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NEW FIND : Varian Battle larger than previously thought.


At Kalkriese archeologist recently found an "Ass" , a roman coin from the times of emperor Augustus (top left) and a bolt-tip of a torsional artillery-piece (low left). This too originates from that (very) era.
 
The grounds at Kalkriese, where Romans and Germanics are thought to have fought in 9AD, obviously is markedly larger than previously thought. Archeologist did spot traces leading further northward.
 
Bramsche. Scientists have begun wizh excavations once again in the park of the Varusschlachtmuseum at Kalkriese. They are hoping for new findings about the course of the battle, which would enable them to understand the actions of 9AD even better, says Dr. Salvatore Ortisi. "I keep expecting many surprises.
 
The research on the "Area Of Conflict Nothern Wiehen Maountains" is by no means finished. On the contrary they've rather just begun".
 
Dr. Ortisi went on stressing that the battlefield at Kalkriese is one of the most important roman finding-spots in Germany. During the past years the taem had gained a more differentiated picture of the events round the earthen ramparts. It is assumes that the Germanics had build the as an ambush for roman commander Varus and his legions.
 
Evidently the areas involved in combat were significantly more extended than the scientist had presumed before, Ortisi accentuated: "Combat situations show up clearly now in the germanic settlements around this area as well as flight movements of roman troops northward into the Great Moor."
 
By ways of an prospection-trench on an area of 4m wide and 150m long there now shall be explored whether there are further earthworks of a germanic ambush or roman fortifications.
 
Besides this, the archeologists hope for "speaking" finds which give more hints towards the roman Units involved. The team has already spotted some pieces, a bronze-ring of a scabbards hinge, parts of silver plates/sheets and various nails.
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Over and out.
Good night.
Simplex
 
BTW: The Official Link:
www.kalkriese-varusschlacht.de
When in doubt: Copy,Paste ,In ...then Out.




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#5
Ahh, thank you, Siggi!
Ben Kane, bestselling author of the Eagles of Rome, Spartacus and Hannibal novels.

Eagles in the Storm released in UK on March 23, 2017.
Aguilas en la tormenta saldra en 2017.


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#6
....and now it seems they've struck two stretches of "trench and rampart", too.
http://www.wn.de/Welt/Kultur/2490269-Ger...ht-Theorie
...since most of the musings there repeat the "as yet" and give very few specific informations on top of that, I shall refrain from translating that.

Greez

Simplex
Siggi K.
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#7
That is definitely very interesting

probably we will never know 100%
the basic problem I would say is that the literary sources we have are not very clear
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#8
Hi,
.....given the size of that finding spot, we may or may not know more by the end of this campaigns excavations.
One thing however will hold true:  it doesn't cease to stay interesting there. Rolleyes

Greez

Simplex
Siggi K.
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#9
Planning to visit in October maybe, only about 200 km away, I was there once last year for their roman Days, pretty nice though we didn't had too much time for museum.
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#10
.....well and this time they've struck SILVER, too.
As the publishing date is 31th of March and NOT 1st of April, I like to see this one as "valid".
The coins were found in a confined area (150 sq metres) -----" the soil suddenly looked different than the one here before" said Karsten Keune, one of
the prospectors.
http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv/Hallo-Nied...d=41917312

....as it seems the may be a "peak number" of Denars struck around 2 to 1 BC -- better knwn as "Gaivs et Lucivs Caesar"-type of coins.

http://www.noz.de/lokales/bramsche/artik...0&0&873415
http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersach...se282.html

.....I may add that around that area many of such kind of caoins had already been found through the centuries.
Which made Theodor Mommsen think of this area as possible "prime" location for the "clades variana".
Well.... and let alone that find that got the "ball rolling" here quite exactly 30 years ago with the finds that Maj. ret. Tony Clunn, MBE had made there.
Like like one of the excavation technicians aptly said : Things stay interesting.

More press:
http://rtlnord.de/nachrichten/alte-silbe...deckt.html
http://www.dw.com/de/schatzfund-mit-200-...a-38245364
http://www.wn.de/Welt/Kultur/2756398-Neu...usschlacht

....and, yes : "Da offischal One":
https://www.uni-osnabrueck.de/presse_oef...d-ans.html

Needless to say : All in German but with a lot of pics.
(No english version founfd as yet. Sorry, got no time to translate ....)

Greez

Simplex
Siggi K.
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#11
Thanks Siggi
Robert Vermaat
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#12
News from Kalkriese.
Some finds from last year have now been added with new ones, and the archaeologists have concluded that they found a 'rough' (ie not well-built) marching camp at the site. Dating looks good and apparently the camp was the scene of a battle. Perhaps this camp represents one of the last camps before the end battle, or perhaps even the last stand? Not hard conclusions yet, but surely an interesting development.

http://www.wn.de/Welt/Kultur/2992485-Roe...-eingruben
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(09-23-2017, 10:55 AM)Robert Vermaat Wrote: News from Kalkriese.
Some finds from last year have now been added with new ones, and the archaeologists have concluded that they found a 'rough' (ie not well-built) marching camp at the site. Dating looks good and apparently the camp was the scene of a battle. Perhaps this camp represents one of the last camps before the end battle, or perhaps even the last stand? Not hard conclusions yet, but surely an interesting development.

http://www.wn.de/Welt/Kultur/2992485-Roe...-eingruben

BTW: Varus-Kurier 19 is online.
Unfortunately only in German.
http://varusforschung.geschichte-multime...ier_19.pdf
(Da pics, ya know ...!)
http://varusforschung.geschichte-multime...loads.html
Main link:
http://varusforschung.geschichte-multimedial.net/
I may have posted that already some time ago, but since they do update that frequently ....

Greez

Simplex
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