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Iron Hellenistic Thracian Helmet
#1
Just completed in time for the new school year.

From Jeffrey Hildebrandt of Royal Oak Armoury http://www.royaloakarmoury.com/

Although Jeffrey could have made me an exact copy of any artifact helmet I preferred one accurate, but plain as I am more interested in the common soldier rather than the general or the king.

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Joe Balmos
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#2
Perfect! Totally par for Jeffrey. Congratulations, Joe!
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#3
A piece of art. Well done Smile
Moi Watson

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Respect!
Als Mensch zu dumm, als Schwein zu kleine Ohren...

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#5
Very cool!
What was the original artefact?
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#6
We based this on a number of artifacts and artistic depictions, not any one particular artifact. This one is obviously iron/steel while most artifact helmets are bronze. Hard to say if that means most were bronze or that the bronze helmets simply survived in greater numbers due to the nature of copper alloy objects vs. iron. The helmet in the Hermitage is iron. The budget and delivery time did not allow for some common decorative elements to be included and those will be added later when the school year ends next June.

Here's the first two students to wear it at the Penn Museum. I really need to get them a more appropriate shield!

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"The helmet in the Hermitage is iron."

Are you sure that such a helmet is in the State Hermitage?
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#8
I love this type, very elegant.
Dan D'Silva

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Quote:"The helmet in the Hermitage is iron."

Are you sure that such a helmet is in the State Hermitage?

Please correct me if I am wrong, but is not this helmet in the State Hermitage collection?

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Oh!
This one from Karantinnoe roadway. Completely flew out of my head))))
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Quote:Oh!
This one from Karantinnoe roadway. Completely flew out of my head))))

We obviously did not use the cheek guards.
Joe Balmos
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#12
Yes, you definitely need a thureos to go with that helmet. Now I know what I'm going to order from Jeffrey, as soon as he finishes my Chalcidian, that is.
Pecunia non olet
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#13
Do you think the thureos was built like the Fayum shield or just planks?

If just planks then there are several purchasing options available, if strips then it becomes complicated.
Joe Balmos
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#14
And this one in copper alloy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Ma...helmet.jpg

The brim has elements from the Boeotian helmet incorporated. Also someone has polished the bejaysus out of it.
Martin

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Quote:Do you think the thureos was built like the Fayum shield or just planks?

If just planks then there are several purchasing options available, if strips then it becomes complicated.

As far as I know, the Fayum shield was a scutum. I believe the thureos was usually flat.
I don't know of a Hellenistic thureos that has survived. It was probably adopted from the Celts, so whatever they used would most likely be right. For handwork-challenged types like me, SOTW sells a boss-and-spina set that looks pretty good. A thureophoros impression is convenient because you really only need the thureos, helmet, spear and sword. They often seem to have fought without body or leg armor so those can be added later if desired. But mainly, I really want that helmet. Have any examples been found in Italy?
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