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Hoplites of the Archaic Age
Ok you give me the best hint Giannis with the sword lol!

Jon, hope its thisone, cus Connolly doesn't have any other battle like this for early hoplite apart of the other one that Giannis posted with the corinthian with ears. & later battles: Marathon, Salamis, Thermopylae etc.

Yes I accidently deleted thisone, I reupload it at flickr

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Remarks by Philip on the Athenian Leaders:
Philip said that the Athenians were like the bust of Hermes: all mouth and dick.
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YES!!! This was it! It wasn't really a dwell but I remembered that sword!
Gioi,is there a plate of Connolly for the batle of Marathon,too? I haven't seen it. Could you post it?
Khaire
Giannis
Giannis K. Hoplite
a.k.a.:Giannis Kadoglou
a.k.a.:Thorax
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Quote:YES!!! This was it! It wasn't really a dwell but I remembered that sword!
Gioi,is there a plate of Connolly for the batle of Marathon,too? I haven't seen it. Could you post it?
Khaire
Giannis

No problem Giannis!

I'm sure u have seen it before :wink:

I hate when the publishing books cropp or edit the whole panorama of the painting,due to space...I wonder if this painting shows more than one persian & hoplites.lol


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MNI Gioi u F**ckers Smile <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />Smile
Remarks by Philip on the Athenian Leaders:
Philip said that the Athenians were like the bust of Hermes: all mouth and dick.
:lol: <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" />:lol:
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Believe it or not,Gioi,I hadn't seen that before!!!It has become by favorite Connolly plate,together with the Thermopylae one! It's interesting that he shows the all-plated linothorax from the Achilles-Patroclus vase(with slight variation on the decoration) and that he sows it lined with stitched leather. Would he believe that such all-scaled thorakes were backed with leather?
Thanks for posting
Khaire
Giannis
Giannis K. Hoplite
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a.k.a.:Thorax
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Aha Success! Yes I can also confirm this was the one. Good for pointing out that sword Giannis. I also remembered that and how much I loved this very rare and not often illustrated type ( I do remember at least one artifact find of this overall type - find place was Kerameikos in Greece if I remember right) I had hoped those other features I pointed out might have been of help too, The Argos Kegel for ex: (Though this was in the Rava one and possibly others too) so maybe not distinct enough. Though the Proto-Corinthian (see main figure to the right fighting the mostly Argos inspired warrior)- was what I was talking about. I like His Early and rare shield; A 'Hertzsprung' or derived type- believed to have originated in Central Europe( I have theorized this type may have become widespread through Dorian contacts with more northwestern regions outside of mainland Greece). I also see a partly obscured Boeotian variety or partly Diplyon hybrid perhaps- shame there doesn't appear to be any true Dipylons though.
As a few important side notes BTW I am of the belief that The Dipylon came in several possible varieties of construction and shape- one construction being more solid and of heavier wood- likely laminated(as opposed/in conjunction to the more widely thought- wickerwork)- as well as altered shape (in the 3d sense) and the degree of convexity- Near flat types are very likely to have existed too.
Thanks so much for finding this again Gioi, and the last Marathon plate; I think I knew of this one- but this may be the first time I've seen it.
PS: Was this in the same place as I asked before, having been in the Encyclopedia/s or elsewhere? (just wondering); And most importantly, What was the original publication in which it was featured?
Thanks again to both of you!
Jon
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