Onward and Upward - Carthaginian reenacting

[barcid]

Thanks Andy , Laudes for a great link, cant keep up with all the great work folks are doing :lol: the the Tumultus Gallicus video is Fantastic ,great group 8)

[barcid]

Hi Chaps , if someone still has Duncan Heads "Armies & Enemies of Maco & Punic wars" could they post up the Punic images & text . Please.

[barcid]

Thanks to Paullus Scipio for sending me those images Cheers...Guys i have punic impression underway..4th. cent Bc Punic Settler Hoplite turning out to support the Sacred Band at Krimisos 341 BC ,what i have in mind is .

• Helm ,Bronze as in my avatar

• Shield , Poplar Aspis plain Bronze furniture ,white face with Palm Tree & 2 Dolphins as the Blazon

• Short Spear 6 foot shaft broad blade head

• Sword Not decided with Baldric, would favor Greek straight 24 inch blade or Kopis style available thru trade with greek cities in Sthn. Italy & the east over a iberian or Celtic straight short sword

• option of bronze Greaves

• No body armour

• Tunic Wool Knee length with long sleeves Natural off white

• Footware none or greek style sandals

• & loin cloth underware

[/list]like this guy but with my helm & aspis ,Thurios introduced around 300BC,so too late

[Arminius Primus]

Ave, Dan et al

I had the good fortune to visit Tunis last summer and spent a fair a mount of time poking around in the Carthage sites that were on the tour route. I think you are right on target if you use the TANIT representation on your shield. It is everywhere ! AFAIK she was never depicted anthropomorphically , but only as an abstract composed of circle, llnes and triangle. The crescent was also her symbol.

This may have been made up for the tourists but our guide stated that the Tanit symbol was also used as components , with each symbol representing an attribute of the goddess. Circle as knowledge and wisdom , lines (arms) as power and mercy? and the triangle as motherhood , fertility, love etc. and pointed out several areas that had circles etc.

Sounds like you are on your way to a unique impression !

Regards from the Balkans, Arminius Primus aka Al

[barcid]

Ave, Dan et al

I had the good fortune to visit Tunis last summer and spent a fair a mount of time poking around in the Carthage sites that were on the tour route. I think you are right on target if you use the TANIT representation on your shield. It is everywhere ! AFAIK she was never depicted anthropomorphically , but only as an abstract composed of circle, llnes and triangle. The crescent was also her symbol.

This may have been made up for the tourists but our guide stated that the Tanit symbol was also used as components , with each symbol representing an attribute of the goddess. Circle as knowledge and wisdom , lines (arms) as power and mercy? and the triangle as motherhood , fertility, love etc. and pointed out several areas that had circles etc.

Sounds like you are on your way to a unique impression !

Regards from the Balkans, Arminius Primus aka Al

Lucky Guy ,Tanit is a stand out may still use as a shield blazon . Ok a start in the post today Greek style Spear tip & butt

[barcid]

Middle eastern armours used by the carthage . Ihave this & It has made me think & am wondering if any source depicts Phonician armours ,thinking of cited iron corsets worn by sacred band cheers

[Dutchhoplite]

Hmmm, interesting...

I would be interested in such information too. Was there any difference between the Phoenicians (Tyrus and other Phoenician cities) and the Carthaginians??

Thanks!

DH

[barcid]

Hmmm, interesting...

I would be interested in such information too. Was there any difference between the Phoenicians (Tyrus and other Phoenician cities) and the Carthaginians??

Thanks!

DH

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Carthage

Heres a start .yes family ties & trade . i feel one could be very adventures with the equiptment put together as long a it all suited the style of fighting to be depicted .,e.g. hoplite 4th cent.bc ? or whatever ? .,& was in circulation thu trade & or alliences ,merc use, Generals input Hired or Punic , theatre of operations Sicily is a great place to base an impression ,it sits nicely as the hub of the med. trade routes wheel. take the sacred Band Bronze helmets ,Iron cuirass & white shields

[barcid]

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shield will be white with dark green emblem

[MeinPanzer]

Wow... totally forgot about this thread! Just thought you might be interested to hear that Duncan Head is set to publish a new Osprey-style book on the Carthaginian army in the next couple of years. Should be another essential work, much like AMPW.

[barcid]

Wow... totally forgot about this thread! Just thought you might be interested to hear that Duncan Head is set to publish a new Osprey-style book on the Carthaginian army in the next couple of years. Should be another essential work, much like AMPW.

Cheers Ruben i'll keep an eye out for that 8) , AMPW is a great Book ,finally got my copy back from a misplaced mate after 4 years & most pleased

[barcid]

2nd Punic War Shield moves onward

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One of the coins used for the Motif Idea

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Nice work Andy 8)

[Phalanx300]

Very nice! So why have you decided to Reenact a Carthaginian?

[Lessa]

really nice work! :!:

[recondicom]

Hmmm, interesting...

I would be interested in such information too. Was there any difference between the Phoenicians (Tyrus and other Phoenician cities) and the Carthaginians??

Thanks!

DH

The Temple of Solomon was built by the king of Tyre. The cherubins at the foot of the throne are actually Phoenician iconography. Solomon also built a second Temple to the goddess Ishtar/Isis.