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Info on Swords Please
#1
Hi

Can anyone give me any details on the attached please ?? ...perloined from Legion Six Smile



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Conal Moran

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#2
What sort of info do you need, just types of blade or more?
Dave Bell/Secvndvs

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#3
I think there are a semispatha, a III century pugio and a Mainz blade. I think the picture is from one Museum of Scotland.
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#4
Quote:What sort of info do you need, just types of blade or more?

Anything really.

Length of blades ... where are originals now .. any better pictures.
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#5
I'd agree with Cesar on the types of blade, (though I wouldn't have known the semispatha myself) i've had a look for some pictures but I couldn't find any, though there could be some as I haven't looked extensively.
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#6
Funny thing. I just looked at Goldsworthy's Complete Roman Army today.
Those patterns look to match a sketch in there. If these pieces are indeed a match to that, then the middle is a "Mainz" pattern gladius , the one on the right would be "Pompei" type pattern, and the left a Spatha.

Just my uneducated guess. The image and caption can be found on p.133
Marcus Julius Germanus
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#7
Salve,

These are from the Axel Guttman collection, Favius Crispus and I took the photos. I will try to get some more info from the catalogues when I get back from work this evening.

Vale,

Celer.
Marcus Antonius Celer/Julian Dendy.
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#8
Quote:Funny thing. I just looked at Goldsworthy's Complete Roman Army today.
Those patterns look to match a sketch in there. If these pieces are indeed a match to that, then the middle is a "Mainz" pattern gladius , the one on the right would be "Pompei" type pattern, and the left a Spatha.

Just my uneducated guess. The image and caption can be found on p.133


Hm, is the left one even long enough to be a spatha?
Seems to be little difference in length between that one and the Pompei gladius.
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#9
I have to agree with Cesar..

Left = Mainz pattern
centre = Third Century Pugio (Like the Kunzing types)
Right = Semispatha.
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#10
These blades are published in:

Christie`s Auction Catalogue 28 April 2004,
The Axel Guttmann Collection of Ancient Arms and Armour, Part 2,
p. 122 lot 130 (with pictures of the left and middle blade)

Quote: "...a Roman iron Mainz-type sword with brass tang button and collar, early/mid - 1st Century A.D.; a Roman iron military pugio blade with central rib, 3rd Century A.D., 22in. (56 cm) long max.
...and a modern resin tanged blade"

The left blade looks like a transitional type to the Pompeii-pattern to me.
I agree that the middle one is a pugio blade of the 3rd Century.
I don`t know if the posted right blade is the same Christie`s described as being a resin (reconstruction?) blade (based on which original?).
Or did they mean only the tang is restored in resin? :?

Greets,

Decebalus/Andreas Gagelmann
Andreas Gagelmann
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#11
You would not you make a resin blade that was not based on an original ... would you :? I hope not as it's a nice looking blade.
Conal Moran

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#12
Quote:Salve,

These are from the Axel Guttman collection, Favius Crispus and I took the photos. I will try to get some more info from the catalogues when I get back from work this evening.

Vale,

Celer.

Any joy Tongue
Conal Moran

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