MEDICA

[brennivs - tony drake]

Is they any Roman Doctors or Greek doctors out there,any stories or any unusual kit .I often don a blooded apron and talk of the miracle of ancient medicne and get excellent fead back " Ive just had that operation" Ill post a small part of a Medical kit I made for one of members of the group Iam in, a number of years ago .
Regards Brennivs

[Decimus Apollonius]

VERY COOL! Please if you are willing to share info im all ears. I work in the medical field professionaly and I would love to get my hands on some Roman Medical Equip. Would love to learn more about it. Could you send some close up pics to my email? Its [email protected]

[Magnus]

That is some seriously cool stuff man. Any idea if the basic roman soldier carried his own bandages, or "first aid kit"?

[sulla felix]

Fantastic stuff Brennivs, and some very interesting looking implements.

[Martin Moser]

Hi Tony,

very nice stuff, maybe you have more pics on details as well? Seems we are sharing an interest here, I explain Roman medicine and/or shoemaking (weird combo, huh? :-) ) ) at events and also make implements myself.
Maybe this thread is interesting for you:

http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?t=5944


And here's my list on recommended reading, maybe there's something in there for you as well:

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Cruse, Audrey. Roman Medicine. Tempus Publishing, 2004

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Davies, Roy.W. Some Roman Medicine. Medical History, Vol XIV, No. 1, Jan. 1970. 101-106

Davies, Roy.W. The Medici of the Roman Armed Forces. Epigraphische Studien 8. Düsseldorf, 1969. 82-99

Davies, Roy W. The Roman Military Medical Service. Saalburg Jahrbuch 27, 1970. 84-104

Dioscorides, Pedanius. Des Pedanios Dioskurides aus Anazarbos Arzneimittellehre. Ãœbers. und mit Erkl. vers. von J. Berendes. Stuttgart, 1902

Düppers, Leo. Die römischen Augensalbenstempel
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Feugère, Michel, E. Künzl, U. Weisser. Les aiguilles à cataracte de Montbellet (Saône-et-Loire). Contribution à l’étude de l’ophtalmologie antique et islamique. Die Starnadeln von Montbellet (Saône-et-Loire). Ein Beitrag zur antiken und islamischen Augenheilkunde, Jahrbuch des römisch-germanischen Zentralmuseum Mainz 32, 1985. 436-481.

Gurdjian, Elisha Stephens. Head injury from antiquity to the present with special reference to penetrating head wounds. Springfield/III., 1973

Heinz, Werner. Baden, Salben und Heilen in der römischen Antike. Augst, 1993

Jackson, Ralph. Doctors and Diseases in the Roman Empire. British Museum Press, 1991

Jackson, Ralph. The Domus 'del Chirurgo' at Rimini. Journal of Roman Archaeology 16, 2003. 312-21

Knörzer, KarlHeinz. Römerzeitliche Heilkräuter aus Novaesium (Neuß/Rh.). Sudhoffs Archiv für Geschichte der Medizin und der Naturwissenschaften 47, Heft 1, März 1963. 311-316.

Knörzer, KarlHeinz. Römerzeitliche Pflanzenfunde aus Neuss. Novaesium IX. Limesforschungen 10, 1970. 128-137

Kollesch, Jutta, Diethard Nickel. Antike Heilkunst.
Reclam, Ditzingen, 1994

Krug, Antje. Heilkunst und Heilkult. Medizin in der Antike. C.H. Beck, 1999

Künzl, Ernst. Der Starstich - Rettung vor Blindheit: Heute ist die Operation des Grauen Stars ein Routineeingriff. Doch wie sah es im römischen Altertum aus? Antike Welt Vol. 35, no3, 2004, 45-50

Künzl, Ernst. Eine Spezialität römischer Chirurgen: Die Lithotomie. Archäologisches Korrespondenzblatt 13, 1983. 487-493

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[brennivs - tony drake]

Martin cannot argue with impresive list of info D
Decimvs if you give me a little time I am busy looking up other info for members I will post what I have ASAP busy with swords at the moment
Magnvs I would say yes in his kit, I carry them in my pack but on the battlefield probley not hence the Capsarii.I think they was a few stages a soldier recieved treament ,the Capsarii first then a field Doctor just behind the lines then onto a field hospital. It is a wonderful field to study this is even though I did it a few years ago so I am a little rusty. So here is my own Field Doctors kit
Regards Brennivs

[brennivs - tony drake]

Here D
FIELD KIT



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[brennivs - tony drake]

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Regards Brennivs

[A_Volpe]

Wow...Those tools and impliments are amazing, great job, and I love the carrying bag too, great stuff.

...Just keep those tools as far away from my body as possible, thankyouverymuch!

8)

[RUBICON]

OUCH!

I don't know what we would be worse! getting carved up by a barbarian or my own medic!



Thats a great looking tool kit! almost make you wanna not get wounded at all!

[AntonivsMarivsCongianocvs]

Dear lord! Seeing all that would make me hope for a quick death on the battle field rather than facing Medicus iuguolo-patiens*! Just kidding, GREAT job on that kit… laudes awarded.



*Dr. Kill-patient

[Martin Moser]

Any idea if the basic roman soldier carried his own bandages, or "first aid kit"?

Can't rule it out, but nothing seems to be known about it from the sources, at least I didn't stumble on anything in the books and articles listed above. Anyway, soldiers could rely on a pretty good medical system in the army, with a corps of medical professionals of different levels, including medical specialsts even, to be around both in camp and out in the field as well as hospitals, which were a more or less standardized institution in the camps. Basically this was the only job that brought its own medical care system and a free one at that.

[Tarbicus]

Am I right in saying the chief medical officer was also in charge of the food? Sure I read that somewhere.

As an aside, if you're not in the position to make a capsa, Armillum sell them here:
http://armillum.com/tienda/index.php?ma ... cts_id=401

[Martin Moser]

Am I right in saying the chief medical officer was also in charge of the food? Sure I read that somewhere.

Hm, interesting. Never heard of that, anybody know something more detailed, perhaps?

[Tarbicus]

Can't remember the book or article, but I do remember thinking, "Ooh, 'ey, that's interesting." :roll: